Are some jobs 'too feminine' in aesthetics?

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's strange to me that there are a handful of posters eager to try and paint personal preferences in relation to aesthetics as 'insecurity'. I, personally, do not get that impression in the slightest.

I'm gay. I like conventionally attractive men ranging from the classically handsome to the ruggedly handsome. I have very little interest in the idea of playing feminine or androgynous men. Which, again, is a personal preference. It also extends to the aesthetics of animations, character design and glamour design.

I'd rather not see glamour go in the same direction as hairstyles where the majority are either feminine or androgynous in design. I'd much prefer variety and a healthy balance of masculine, feminine and androgynous designs to suit a broad variety of tastes.

I think Shadowbringers has been a bit better on that front and some of the sets made available to healers - such as the Cryptlurker gear - have been a refreshing change of pace to the usual fare. I hope that we continue to see more variety moving forward.

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Well good for you, but to be frank the more you say "I'm not insecure I promise" the more you give the impression that you are.

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Originally Posted by Brandedblade

Well good for you, but to be frank the more you say "I'm not insecure I promise" the more you give the impression that you are.

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I don't think that is the case at all. It's simply a case of putting a firm line in the sand. If someone isn't fond of particular aesthetics, what benefit is there in forcing that person to like or embrace them? It doesn't take much before such a push makes for quite the slippery slope and leads to more questionable rhetoric.

Furthermore, whether someone is or isn't comfortable in their own self is entirely up to that specific individual to decide in the first place. Not anybody else, especially strangers on the internet who, most likely, come from completely different backgrounds, countries and belief systems.

Who cares it's a game.

Can't you just use Glamour if you don't like the way the job looks naturally?

Dancer may take some adjusting due to... being a dancer and some people thinking dancing is feminine

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Can't you just use Glamour if you don't like the way the job looks naturally?

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As has come up previously, yes.

Though it'd be nice if SE unlocked a lot of the glamor options to grant a bit more flexibility.

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Originally Posted by Risvertasashi

As has come up previously, yes.

Though it'd be nice if SE unlocked a lot of the glamor options to grant a bit more flexibility.

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I have an Archer cosplay that would absolutely slap if the Alliance Jacket of Aiming could be used with the Althyk Cuisses of Scouting.

It would be cool if WHM had universal clothing like this concept art from Ryan Lee

Trouser/pant instead of skirt

Jacket/coat instead of robe.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1000w

Perhaps maybe an alternate flat heeled boot could be supplied in a reward/drop too if your like me and dont want wear heels in combat :)


Credit to the source: http://artbygregthorne.com/ffxv-concept

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Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart

Can't you just use Glamour if you don't like the way the job looks naturally?

Dancer may take some adjusting due to... being a dancer and some people thinking dancing is feminine

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Yes, but it kind of sucks when you have to keep glamming over your class's Artifact gear.

AF armor? Yes and no. Jobs like SCH and RDM reduce the female model into a Spirit Halloween brand "Sexy <job>". It's eased out by glamming over it, and you don't wear AF for long, anyway.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Yes, but it kind of sucks when you have to keep glamming over your class's Artifact gear.

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I've actually used the DNC af since release because to me nothing looks as good, at most I just changed the pants with something jet black to go with the rest of it. Not quite a fan of the EW one so I may just keep using the ShB one, I like it that much.

Glamours are like hairstyles in that sense. Sure, "if you don't like it, don't use it", but that also means while some may enjoy their new hairstyle every couple months, others who don't like braided ponytails or Karen bobs can only wait and cross their fingers to eventually get something different.

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Originally Posted by Izar_Chillen

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1000w
Credit to the source: http://artbygregthorne.com/ffxv-concept

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I've seen this one a few times and really like it, but it'd probably be "too much like SCH", since WHM seems to be locked to nun aesthetics - that doesn't stop dungeon/tomestone/raid/pvp gear to look like that though