SE: Please tone it down a hair

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Well when you compare it to what the OP said about making leveling longer... that is what you're saying

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Negative. I am pointing out that he's all about timesinks, on a far grander scale.

He wants changes that make the lot of us grind for months, but he can't be bothered to read five paragraphs from Louisoix. It is at once amusing, and annoying as all get-out.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

Negative. I am pointing out that he's all about timesinks, on a far grander scale.

He wants changes that make the lot of us grind for months, but he can't be bothered to read five paragraphs from Louisoix. It is at once amusing, and annoying as all get-out.

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It's ok, Eagle... It's all about opinions... It's a matter of preference... I think the dialogue is just ok... but could be better... You like mediocre dialogue... to each his own...

No one is knocking you because you enjoy the works of Stephenie Meyer

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It's ok, Eagle... It's all about opinions... It's a matter of preference... I think the dialogue is just ok... but could be better... You like mediocre dialogue... to each his own...

No one is knocking you because you enjoy the works of Stephenie Meyer

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I freely admit that I am not familiar with that particular author. (>.> ) Judging by your comment, though, I wager that you find her an inferior novelist, and so I am forced to say that you're scraping bottom barrel here, dude.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

I freely admit that I am not familiar with that particular author. (>.> ) Judging by your comment, though, I wager that you find her an inferior novelist, and so I am forced to say that you're scraping bottom barrel here, dude.

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It's the twilight chick... and that's funny

That would be a good reason why I am unfamiliar with her, yes. I do not like vampire stories. Being a Paladin, I rather hate vampires. >.>

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

That would be a good reason why I am unfamiliar with her, yes. I do not like vampire stories. Being a Paladin, I rather hate vampires. >.>

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hehe... I chuckled... but like I said earlier... I LOVE the story... I just want to dive deeper into it...
I want the text to grab people more... I feel like this story has the potential to please EVERYONE....
Something where classic literature lovers and modern superhero aficionados can agree on....

Edit: stop pretending you are unfamiliar with twilight... lol... just joking with ya

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Originally Posted by Zaaku

I applaud your writers and their use of every single page of the Infinity Flux Time Extensive Thesaurus of large words and fancy idioms but I'm begging you.

Please stop.

Pretty much every encounter with the Empire is a pretty good example of over doing it. Cloud an NPC's words in mystery and perhaps some foreshadowing riddles but not a 5 pages soliloquies about the nothingness of still could be happenings of what was once never there. I fancy myself an intelligent creature but trying to decipher every single sentence because it is so overladen with foreign Yoda speak is bringing down my self worth as a thinking man with every syllable.

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I don't agree with you.
I'm not even an English native speaker and I can easily understand more than 90% of what they are talking about.
(And the remaining 10% is mostly due to being tired when I play.)
It's no different than reading a book, you don't have to understand every single word perfectly to understand and enjoy what it's all about (and you can always check later the meaning of unknown words or the wording of difficult sentences -- it's called learning, who said we shouldn't learn anything while playing video games?).

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Leveling is a completely different beast though...

Story text is definitely NOT something you should make longer just for the sake of taking up time...

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You can say this about anything, story is not the only thing that shouldn't commit this sin.

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Leveling is a type of time sink... I KNOW you are not suggesting the dialogue in the game be a time sink... Even YOU can't be that silly...

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The point is precisely that its not a time-sink at all. Five paragraphs of text is not a time-sink. It will take you roughly anywhere from 60 seconds to 2 minutes to read. Do you really define 2 mins of reading a time-sink? Seriously? As I said before, ppl can stomach doing all kinds of monotonous and repetitive activities for hours because they like them. They cry for more grinding, cry for long-lasting content, etc etc. Different strokes for different folks right? Yet for some reason taking a couple minutes to read is a huge waste of time, a huge time-sink, and should be shortened so that it takes a max of 15 seconds to process whatever is being said. What sense does this make? That is just impatience, and is definitely no basis for judging the writing quality or content. I'll reiterate, the internet has destroyed ppl's patience for actually reading anything beyond a paragraph. I know you play a game to play, not read, but rpg's have always had a lot of exposition. If you don't like reading you are in the wrong genre. Skip it if you don't want to read it, but those of us who enjoy the literary aspect of the RPG are quite happy to take an extra 2 minutes to read a story. If you want to know whats going on find a summary.

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Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna

You can say this about anything, story is not the only thing that shouldn't commit this sin.



The point is precisely that its not a time-sink at all. Five paragraphs of text is not a time-sink. It will take you roughly anywhere from 60 seconds to 2 minutes to read. Do you really define 2 mins of reading a time-sink? Seriously? As I said before, ppl can stomach doing all kinds of monotonous and repetitive activities for hours because they like them. They cry for more grinding, cry for long-lasting content, etc etc. Different strokes for different folks right? Yet for some reason taking a couple minutes to read is a huge waste of time, a huge time-sink, and should be shortened so that it takes a max of 15 seconds to process whatever is being said. What sense does this make? That is just impatience, and is definitely no basis for judging the writing quality or content. I'll reiterate, the internet has destroyed ppl's patience for actually reading anything beyond a paragraph. I know you play a game to play, not read, but rpg's have always had a lot of exposition. If you don't like reading you are in the wrong genre. Skip it if you don't want to read it, but those of us who enjoy the literary aspect of the RPG are quite happy to take an extra 2 minutes to read a story. If you want to know whats going on find a summary.

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I wouldn't mind a long read if it was impactful...
5 paragraphs that can be summed up in 1 sentence... I'll pass
If there are 5 paragraphs... I should walk away with so much to think about

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Originally Posted by Rydin

I wouldn't mind a long read if it was impactful...
5 paragraphs that can be summed up in 1 sentence... I'll pass
If there are 5 paragraphs... I should walk away with so much to think about

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That depends on the goal of the text. In FFXIV's case, the dialogue is not meant to be art, but to be an expression of life. Life is full of meaningless 5+ paragraph conversations. You hear them every day, you even make them yourself. These conversations are often not designed to invoke enlightenment upon your listeners, but rather talk for the sake of talking; after all, talking is fun. If Eorzea is, indeed, supposed to be a world full of life and character, it would make sense for there to be plenty of meaningless conversation and lots of blather. No one is forcing you to read it all, you can easily just pick out the important nuggets and tune the rest out...often like what we do in real life. Its supposed to be entertaining, not a literary masterpiece. I find it entertaining, as do others who enjoy reading for the sake of reading. Obviously you do not enjoy reading purely for the sake of reading, so please feel free to /ignore what Eorzeans have to say. This does not translate into "this crap needs to be revisited," as there are plenty who like the extra touch and extra effort to bring a world to life.