Eureka CONSTRUCTIVE suggestions thread - no negativity

I know a lot of people weren't fond of FATEs from Diadem but I'd honestly like them to add them to Eureka. The NM can be big bonus/exp hunts but having FATEs that give you a little extra reward would be nice over grinding mobs which honestly isn't even worth it, it would be nice to get a crystal or so from getting gold on a FATES. Getting stuff done low level is already becoming difficult and if there is any kind of difference in level exp in groups completely drops which again almost isn't worth it. Now with people running around on mounts getting to low level NMs before they die is also becoming an issue.

Add a Hunting Log category for Eureka. Ideally with all regular monsters.
It would create a reason to explore more than just following the fate train, a meaningful solo activity, a starting point for new players, and I think (I hope) it wouldn't be hard to implement.

4 tiers of entry each with a Max Level.

I'm thinking 1-8, 9-17, 18+ and "Free for All" Cap for each area being the max level allowed into the instance but you would be able to level past the cap

Splitting it into three groups would help with the current influx of new players that may not be able to find a group they are compatible with.

This would allow certain zones to be used for constant chains with the cap being set at 8/17 respectively

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Another suggestion: Make NMs count towards the S rank hunt achievements. Why?
1. Making the tiger more accessible as befitting how highly requested it was.
2. Spawning an NM is no different than spawning Leucrotta, Udumbara or Okina with slightly different extra conditions (there's no waiting for moon phases, mercifully, but yes for time of day or weather conditions)
3. Ensuring the longevity of the mode by putting more objectives behind it. Make the grind all the more worth it.

2k is still a huge grind, and there'll still be the 3k A ranks which Eureka won't help with. It's not like doing this will make the achievement redundant.

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While the concept to spawn NMs is similar to some S ranks, I can’t say I agree with this idea. It would almost make the 2k S rank achieve easier than 3k A ranks.

I just dinged elvl 10 before logging for a break. There needs to be steps taken to help bust up the NM zerg train (that typically consists of 20-30 people capable of killing mobs needed and double to triple than many people there as resbots at best). Lower cd on the sub-10 NMs and bumping up xp and/or chain bonus for killing regular mobs could help.

Dunno but the first thing i thought about Eureka is why they didn't set it as some kind of big huge server event like the opening of the gate of Ahn'Quiraj in old vanilla wow.

I still remember fondly that....aura of striving for a common goal.

I still hold to my belief that Kryle sending you on missions to kill 30 of this group, 30 of that group, and 30 of that other group would be a lot fun while still keeping the NM system around. People just want variety in the hunt aspect of things.

I'm taking a second character through Eureka now. While I had a lot of fun with my main, now that people are use to the train, you're really the mercy of it for any progress at all.

If I try to work on lower level stuff, I'll miss whatever the train is at because they zerg things so fast.

I feel that maybe the teleports, or at LEAST the mounts should have only been a thing for getting to 20. Meaning that all people leaving are on the same footing.

Even at higher levels I noticed this problem. I would help pawn the higher level nms but the train wouldn't wait for us at other things.

Also, for as much time as they spent developing, I really would have liked more items to work towards too. Why not have a special drop for every NM? and why not make the items dyable?

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Originally Posted by BillyKaplan

Another suggestion: Make NMs count towards the S rank hunt achievements. Why?
1. Making the tiger more accessible as befitting how highly requested it was.
2. Spawning an NM is no different than spawning Leucrotta, Udumbara or Okina with slightly different extra conditions (there's no waiting for moon phases, mercifully, but yes for time of day or weather conditions)
3. Ensuring the longevity of the mode by putting more objectives behind it. Make the grind all the more worth it.

2k is still a huge grind, and there'll still be the 3k A ranks which Eureka won't help with. It's not like doing this will make the achievement redundant.

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I don't think the NMs should count, but I think kill them should have their own mount/achievement to keep higher levels helping with older content.

Easiest way to fix eureka:

1.Increase exp per mob and make chain bonus stay at lv30 as long as chain is connected. Also add anemos boxes to regular monsters drop and increase protean crystal drop rate
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2.Change notorious monster spawn conditions. Make it random spawn limited to 1 time per day for each of them. Maybe adjust their drops accordingly.

In short: main method of leveling in Eureka should be by grind, not by NM train.

What I'd like to see most of all is have some sort of level sync for outside of FATEs. Because, if you're a level 11 you can't help out a level 1 FC friend and have them get experience. But, if you could say select a party member, sync based on that level you could help them out. So, if you synced based on a level 1 as a level 11, maybe it made you level 3. You wouldn't get much experience, but at least your FC friend would.

I agree about increasing mob exp and making the chain bonus continue, but I don't think Anemos crystals should drop from regular monsters. I think that they shouldn't convert to Protean crystals (or maybe just 2 to 1). If you did that increased the drop rate, it would make doing the chains more attractive. About of spawn conditions, maybe if they made it every 4 hours (or maybe 3.5 hours), instead of 2? So, they'd only spawn once during the three hour instance timer.

-Reduce Eureka player capacity, forcing smaller parties to coordinate to fight NMs instead of a massive train. Scale back the FATEs so they're doable with 1~3 alliances, but something to discourage the hunt blobbing would be appreciated.

-Tweak chain experience, have the % raise much higher past 15 or so, and/or penalize party chains less. This still requires a time investment to get chains going, but there's more reason and reward to do it.

-Something for wider level ranges of parties to chain together. Some sync system may not be a quick fix, but it'd be useful. That or allow an in-zone party grouping thing for specific level ranges.
Hell, even something as silly as little benches for people to sit on at camp, separated by level ranges and people know whomever is sitting right there is waiting for a party.

-Remove the timer on NMs so that people can repeatedly spawn one that is in their level range while chaining around an area. Could be abusable(?), not any moreso than the current rush-fest though I imagine. Maybe keep the 20+ ones on such a timer.

-More of a personal pet peeve, but make monster spawns make more sense. They can still be spread out, yet sight aggro and sneak past-able with effort, but this equidistant minefield of monsters covering the entire island is kind of weird to look at.

-Not much can be done about Anemos, but the next iteration of Eureka please involve the job's equipment into the storyline somehow instead of just crystals -> Gerolt -> profit.