Latest comment from Yoshida regarding Housing + Inventory space issue

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09-25-2014, 07:09 AM
Lillia

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Originally Posted by Tsuga

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

Uh, who are you to say if I wasn't? maybe I am just not as easily offended as someone clearly. Also... you just added that, I just read it and the prices are not separate, (big deal now FC houses don't need to pay 5 mil but 2. I see it as beneficial for BOTH parties.) and it is a lot lower as I explained to your fellow poster.
09-25-2014, 07:09 AM
Tsuga

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Originally Posted by Lillia

@Teryaani

Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable." - Naoki Yoshida

The statement was not that personal houses would be cheaper due to depreciating value, it was that they would be "completely separate from free company" prices, and "far more affordable [than them]".
09-25-2014, 07:10 AM
Gextiv

I propose a solution: Free To Play.

I believe a Free To play Final Fantasy 14 could open up housing to more players. That way, some of us would not have to treat this game as a second job to make gil for a personal house.
09-25-2014, 07:10 AM
MageBlack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tsuga

I posted the exact quote from Yoshida in my last post. He explicitly states that Personal and Free Company houses would have separate pricing structures.

To you "not caring", it sounded like you were trivializing people's wants when you said that it was "just playing harvest moon in FF". My point was who are you to say that people should not be passionate about being lied to about this feature if they were looking forward to it?

Can you tell me what difference price will make if all the plots are sold out? They could be 4k a plot but if there are none available it does not matter. To me, they should have been a separate zone even from the FC housing or something that was personally instanced for a personal house.
09-25-2014, 07:12 AM
Teryaani

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Originally Posted by Lillia

@Teryaani

Ok, not to be rude, but you seem like you like to debate so I'm going to answer you quickly and leave you at that debating arena on your own.

They said that when FC housing first came out, prices lowered since then. People were worried at the time that we'd need about 10 mil for personal housing since that was roughly if not more what a SMALL house cost which at the time was only one floor. Since then the prices have decreased and became much more affordable along with small housing also gaining a basement from the fears of some not having an airship and complains that it was too small because it was the size of what your personal rooming was currently.

Yes, but that still is FC housing. You're arguing that the personal housing prices are lower because the FC prices are lower. That's not what's being discussed. What's being discussed is that the personal housing was going to cost less than the FC housing, regardless of how the FC housing market did.

You're saying FC (old) > FC (new). Nobody is debating that.

Yoshi stated that FC < P

What we got was FC = P.

Also that the wards would be separate entirely. Which has nothing to do with the price. If you're wondering why that's a big deal, it's because FCs in busy servers are already having a hard time getting housing. With this change it gets even harder on them.
09-25-2014, 07:13 AM
Theplatter

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

He was just using this as a shield then. That's no ones fault but his own.
He either worded it horrible HORRIBLY wrong, or lied.
Yoshi never ever posted anything new after saying that.

Does this about sum it up?

http://i.imgur.com/uPHILBc.jpg
09-25-2014, 07:14 AM
Mugiawara

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Originally Posted by Gextiv

I propose a solution: Free To Play.

I believe a Free To play Final Fantasy 14 could open up housing to more players. That way, some of us would not have to treat this game as a second job to make gil for a personal house.

LOL right?
But they'll just do this: They'd just charge you like $50 for a house, special things will be on the housing tab on the Cash Shop.
So it's a lose - lose situation no matter what you do...It'll always be a win for SE.
09-25-2014, 07:14 AM
Roris

Remember the original 2.0 screenshots up to Gamescom 2012 that had the old battle system displayed? Remember the comments since 1.x about Crystal Tower being released at launch? FC summoning still not added, still no word on Golden Saucer when it was estimated by them to be added around 2.3-2.4. It's not like it's the first time these "misinterpretations" and last minute changes have occurred and certainly not the first time it's happened to housing either, what with the comment about how the cheapest FC housing option would cost "about 3 times what a new player can get by leveling from 1 to 50 through the story".

The trust was lost and not really regained a long time ago.
09-25-2014, 07:14 AM
Lillia

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Originally Posted by Tsuga

"While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable." - Naoki Yoshida

The statement was not that personal houses would be cheaper due to depreciating value, it was that they would be "completely separate from free company" prices, and "far more affordable [than them]".

Already replied, don't double post ploxandty.

Btw, I do personally find it a bit interesting that you're worked over me calling it harvest moon seeing that it is pretty similar. You fix your house up, take care of a chicken and grow plants.
09-25-2014, 07:17 AM
Tsuga

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

Can you tell me what difference price will make if all the plots are sold out? They could be 4k a plot but if there are none available it does not matter. To me, they should have been a separate zone even from the FC housing or something that was personally instanced for a personal house.

That's a separate issue, but I agree that it is another disappointing side effect of shoehorning personal housing in with FC housing. It's just not what we were discussing.

imo they should have been separate systems entirely, with personal housing being slightly smaller than company housing with smaller ward zones to justify lower prices (as was implied), to accommodate server issues and so as to not invalidate FC housing. Wishful thinking at this point, though.

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Originally Posted by Lillia

Already replied, don't double post ploxandty.

Check time of post. Also that was the direct quote from Yoshida.

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