Dragoons: A Rotation Reborn

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Meh I got my Liberator and my det is goin so much downhill :( Im not entirely convinced that weapon damage is really the way to go to do more damage, with ilvl95 weapon I was hittin like 1630 full thrust and now its more about 1550 big maximum ...

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/lies lol...

Sometimes you just get luckier with crits than others.

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Originally Posted by pompey_dan

/lies lol...

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Not really, with X pot on it can hit that hard.

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Sometimes you just get luckier with crits than others.

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Yeah its that +69% crit damage roll happenin once in a blue moon but still

i95 weapon, rest in i90 gear, you could break 1650 full thrust with x pot yes.
with Lib, you can break 1725 in i90 gear. i100 gear you can break 1825+ ( highest I have hit )

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Originally Posted by pompey_dan

Is 400 for the entire fight? that seems really inflated for allagan book smn. Do you have 2 bards with perma foe up lol? 350 for drg, 380 for monk seem like ok numbers for a first time clear with i100 weapons.

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We have only one bard. He does use foe req, but not very long. I don't parse the fight. But those that do in the group all have very similiar figures using ACT for us all. We've not cleared it yet, but getting pretty close. Outside of food buffs, I don't believe any of us have used other consumables to boost dps. I'm just amazed at how high their dps is, that's all. I could probably squeeze out a little more if I didn't chase down mines or deal with brain jack, but I doubt I'd be matching the summoners. Just curious if other groups are noticing the same thing.

It really depend of your amount of Determination here, I cant have more than 355 with food atm while usin Wave harpoon, with the liberator it went down so cant reach these high numbers for now, way too low det.

With Lib at i100 gear level that I currently at breaking 1800 on full thrust ( with X potion ) I am at 333 Det w/ HQ Buttons.
Yes, prior to using Lib and a lot of the other gear I am using now, I was a ton higher in Det.

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Meh I got my Liberator and my det is goin so much downhill :( Im not entirely convinced that weapon damage is really the way to go to do more damage, with ilvl95 weapon I was hittin like 1630 full thrust and now its more about 1550 big maximum ...

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Damage will go up once you upgrade it to i110.

7 det can't compare to 5 str and 4 weapon damage.

Between the weathered liberator and the TIDAL wave harpoon, the harpoon will be your best bet. But once you upgrade to the i110 liberator that will be your bis until your t9 weapon. The WD grossly outweighs any loss in det. I currently have the upgraded liberator, 495 acc and am sitting at 366 det, so I don't know what y'all are complaining about.

*i also have a bunch of crafted and melded gear :)

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Originally Posted by rickyguo

Damage will go up once you upgrade it to i110.

7 det can't compare to 5 str and 4 weapon damage.

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Exactly. What Sygmaelle is experiencing, is RNGesus. 1 WD = approx 29 DET.