OMG Give us an AOE heal that is not worthless!

at your gear, your succor does not heal for 400. i am full DL with my relic and it heals for around 340-360.

If your going to post dont lie please.


And do not refrence to titan. the only hard part about that fight is that you depend on 100% execution from other people with little to no room for error. our shield as of now is basically a support to a WHM. you saying you had a WHM in your party only agrees more with our point that the AoE scholars are stuck with needs some mechanical changes or a potency increase for what little it does

And yes i have killed turn 4 and have coil on farm. Was super easy.

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Originally Posted by kronpas

No, the crux of the issue is that most WHMs think they know what SCHs actually want and post accordingly. Most likely those ignorant WHMs cant read past the first post of a thread also, lolz.

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Restores own HP and the HP of all nearby party members. Cure Potency: 150.
Additional Effect: Erects a magical barrier which nullifies damage equal to the amount of HP restored.
Duration: 30s

Or Scholars are working by design and the OP's post is one of ignorance asking for another ability which would break the scholar job. And your post is one of irony there is really nothing to be said about your blatant lack of insight to the class you play you can't see the forest for the trees either stop bitching about scholar's and imagined WHM attacks because some us can see outside the box or fucking reroll.

That was your 2nd post in this thread, lifeendeath. I sincerely hope you did read at least a few pages back before posting again, because if it werent the case, I'm genuinely worry for your reading comprehension. You squarely fall into the very type of WHM I described in your quote :)

I'm a little confused about what SCH players realistically want. Is it stacking buffs? Spammable AoE? AoE that heals for more?Better pet AI, so you don't have to manually control it?

Is playing a scholar that challenging that these things need to be implemented? Or is it players looking for excuses for not having the skill to compete?

The scholars I've healed with seem to do okay.
Just wondered.

What we want is better Pet AI, and an aoe That isnt a waste to use after the first cast. so that could mean a potency increase (maybe 200-250) or just a mechanical change.

I get the pet requests, but it is confusing to see posts about how easy content is while asking for even stronger ae heals...

I can't help but feel shields and heals should be separate. If I'm preventative, give me a big shield for prior to a big hit, or for me to erect afterward if I missed the hit and my pet and I to single target people back up. The preventative shield combined with the heal run counter to each other rather than benefiting each other beyond having a crit opportunity-- much of which is wasted by having to spam it to bring people up for the next big hit. I just don't feel as though I prevent much damage considering how much can be dealt raid wide plus to tanks at same time, it's usually an ugly catch-up game.

I think larger shields (without healing attached) with us the ability to pop all of them to convert them to healing ourselves for the healing would be fun. Might cost us an extra GCD, but if it might be another interesting mechanic that I think might fit thematically. How big shields should be, if you could pop only your own, the costs, etc, well that's for crunchers.

They could just have casting succor reduce the mana cost and cast time of your next succor for 10 seconds. Then you have to spam it but it is faster and costs less. Done. No overpowering or stepping on toes of other classes.

Make it a trait that replaces a useless one.

It's a situational buff for the times you really need it.

You can't make it a trait though, since Arcanist doesn't have Succor you'd saddle Summoners with a dead weight trait... It would have to be baseline.

But just out of interest, what would you have replaced?

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Originally Posted by GramkarSilverpaw

You can't make it a trait though, since Arcanist doesn't have Succor you'd saddle Summoners with a dead weight trait... It would have to be baseline.

But just out of interest, what would you have replaced?

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Dunno, just been seeing requests for better traits. Baseline is fine. It addresses the stated issues, though.