FF14 player count reached the lowest point in 4 years. We lost 75% of the playerbase.

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Originally Posted by Luca_

That's exactly what I mean by "perpetual." I can't think of another game that markets its expansion features by saying "by the way, we're going to dripfeed all of this to you and 75% of it won't be available until a year or two after launch." I think it's only now becoming a real sore spot for a couple reasons:

1. The players that swapped over from WoW have long since reached endgame and had a few years to catch up on the backlog of available content, and are now finding that new content drops are few and far between.

2. FFXIV's main draw has always been its story and having such an excellent narrative let players forgive a lot of questionable decisions elsewhere, but Dawntrail's MSQ was divisive at best. When there's a constant lack of things to do and people don't like the MSQ, there's nothing to fall back on.

3. And finally, patch cycles are now just SO. LONG. They take twice as long to push out half as much content as other MMOs while having the most stringent and predictable formula of all.

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They also just don't know how to design long-lasting content that isn't just [Collect 5000 Accursed Hoards from PotD].

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It's a joke that people still defend FFXIV's perpetual content drought at this point.

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About 15 content creators covered this thread and called us crazy and wrong.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

About 15 content creators covered this thread and called us crazy and wrong.

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Who cares, they're the biggest white knights of the game.

Arthars especially. Talks a huge talk about how he will confront Yoshi P and talk about major issues of the game and demand an answer. Then actually meets him and smiles and fanboys over him like a loser.

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Originally Posted by Bonoki

About 15 content creators covered this thread and called us crazy and wrong.

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Using Steam as a metric on a game that is multi platforms, what do you think?
Even I am a PC user, I wouldn't want to buy Steam version of FF14
The nightmare of deal with Steam and SE helpline with FF11, yea, no thanks
Also, non EU/NA FF14 players are mostly on console

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Using Steam as a metric on a game that is multi platforms, what do you think?
Even I am a PC user, I wouldn't want to buy Steam version of FF14
The nightmare of deal with Steam and SE helpline with FF11 was a nightmare
Not to mention most of none EU/NA regions are mostly playing consoles
PC is not a "master race" outside of EU/NA.
Especially Japan is a console only market because of narrowed living space

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Checks out you are about approximately as smart as a content creator

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Originally Posted by Red-thunder

Checks out you are about approximately as smart as a content creator

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Oh you are saying you are smarter than most of people because of Steam metric?
Are you one of those flat earth believer?
Or type of people thinks only EU/NA matters?
Is it type of the personality if any one that disagree with me, they are wrong and should forever be silent?

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Oh you are saying you are smarter than most of people because of Steam metric?
Are you one of those flat earth believer?
Or type of people thinks only EU/NA matters?
Is it type of the personality if any one that disagree with me, they are wrong and should forever be silent?

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I see the lights are on but no one's home

As someone who loves the game and is subbed since years... its true lol.

The fact alone that we dont get new pvp stuff every patch or even mid patch. It might be pointless but having different maps for pvp modes like CC does would at least spice things a bit up... Rivial wings does exist as well. Small scale mech pvp would work too...

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Oh you are saying you are smarter than most of people because of Steam metric?
Are you one of those flat earth believer?
Or type of people thinks only EU/NA matters?
Is it type of the personality if any one that disagree with me, they are wrong and should forever be silent?

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What is the variable that makes Steam users quit but not PC launcher users? Lol

You can't name one

https://steamcharts.com/app/39210

February 2025 16,385.4 -713.8 -4.17% 24,540

We're literally in 2020 territory now lmao

Every single month from 2021 to 2024 was higher than 16385.4.