Yoshida-san: Please Give Us a BETTER System for Relics and Future 2.0 Challenges!

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Originally Posted by Kagato

See? This guy is smart! He sees the requirements to get a weapon and makes a decision based around how dedicated he'd be to getting one. He decides it is too difficult for him, so he passes and focuses on other things.

This is how you respond to something that is too difficult for something that is not required to get.

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it's not to hard to get it's just to random. with rng guy 1 can walk in get something piece of cake or a walk in the park.. "wow that was too easy". guy 2 could give everyminute of his online time trying to get items and get nowhere after weeks months possibly years due to the rng. "WTF????"

there is no real difficulty only luck.

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Originally Posted by Kagato

You want progress? Ok.

Every GC Seal you obtain toward the 25,000 = Progress.
Every Hamlet Item you receive = Progress IF the rng favors you
Getting the Soiled Promissory Note = Progress
Getting the HQ Materials = Progress IF the rng favors you
Killing the NM = Progress
Obtaining the Dungeon Items = Progress IF the rng favors you

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in the end it should take everyone an roughly equal amount of time and effort to get stuff done. not be a ridiculous gamble where some people need to put in 50x more time work and effort than others for the same reward due to the rng.

WTF, How is RNG differ from drop rate?

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Jaggedy-Eared_Jack
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...eared_jack.jpg
Rabbit Charm (1.4%)
Lottery Spawn from a Forest Hare at (G-9), (G-10), (H-9) or (H-10). Minimum re-spawn time is 50 minutes

Problem.

Its been around forever, you always have a change to get the drop per the drop rate %...
Its nothing new, go play in the street

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Originally Posted by Dragonhaven

In all honestly I agree with the OP, I made the first Gungnir on Asura in XI and it was retarded how long it took. When I finally finished making the relic the game was not interesting to me at all as it had turned into a job. Not something fun that I looked forward to playing every day or logging in to see my friends I felt like I could retire from some mind-numbing grind. It seems like a lot of xiv has this same charm... If you want the cool new stuff you must grind (*cracks the whip).

As for people complaining about the OP's post lets look at the likes on this post I was #222 based on this and the number of people who actually take some time to look at the depressing forums I would hope that SE or devs etc would take notice and get their butts in gear on this movement. Bayohne where you at?

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So true!
We need a progress-o-meter and not a grind to death...
Step by Step and not same again and again...
Fun and challenge before frustration and sadness...
Even for 24/7 players some Achievements are already ridiculous hard to get, how the other players feel then?

Currently it feels like doing those weapons once and quit gaming, so I have the progress done but fun totally destroyed. Is that the goal SE tries to accomplish?

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Originally Posted by Green_and_a_Half

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Its nothing new, go play in the street

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Diseases arent anything new and have been around all the time, but that doesnt mean they are good.
Nothing wrong with improving existing systems/thinking about new ones. Thats called advancement/innovation.
Otherwise we would still only playing pinball.

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Originally Posted by Vingtdeux

I agree with this thread, everyone should have relic weapons.

They should even begin a promotional campain with Kellogg's to have relic weapons in cereal boxes.

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No you right lets give it an idiotic "whoever is the luckiest gets it" system...
That totally makes sense.
Again for the milionth time....
NOBODY IS ASKING FOR IT TO BE EASYYY!!!
JUST NOT RANDOM!

There i hope peeps can now can actually read it.

And for the peps saying "pff casuals"

LMAO...

Ya support RNG.. thats totally hardcore tee hee...

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Originally Posted by Alegis

Diseases arent anything new and have been around all the time, but that doesnt mean they are good.
Nothing wrong with improving existing systems/thinking about new ones. Thats called advancement/innovation.
Otherwise we would still only playing pinball.

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It is the fairest way to do it, everyone has the same chance. more times done, more of the same chance. fair.
The street is that way --->

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Originally Posted by Alegis

Theres nothing to know how it works, except how to get a few % more each try.

But still everything is possible. You can go 1/1 with a 5% chance of success but on the other side u can go 0/50 with a 40% chance of success.
Did the player, who didnt farm HQ mats to get a few more %, deserve it more to get the double melded? Did he work harder for it? I dont think so.

Already 21 pages and some still dont get the point.
Not to make it easier, faster (hell, they can even put a month of wait-time between those quests, as long as its the same for everyone) or whatever. But thats said thousands of times yet...

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I agree.

It's also something you can buy. A player manages, after some years, to go 7/7 on Relics (or just gets what he/she wants). Then starts to sell double melded weapons items for 50-100m.

Bam! Buy Relics!

That's just stupid.
Worst way to get final weapons I've ever seen in a mmo.

People keep failing to understand that they don't actually have to put in the time, effort, and "gamble" to do this. They could just, you know, stick to primal weapons.

Again, people just need to be honest and come right out and say that this event is too hard for them and they want it made easier.

SE should have just made normally-hard AF/relic weapons to get to complete AF sets, then add DIFFERENT LEGENDARY/ULTIMA weapons with this RNG quest. Nobody would have complained, since we were all expecting just relics/af weapons.

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

No you right lets give it an idiotic "whoever is the luckiest gets it" system...
That totally makes sense.
Again for the milionth time....
NOBODY IS ASKING FOR IT TO BE EASYYY!!!
JUST NOT RANDOM!

There i hope peeps can now can actually read it.

And for the peps saying "pff casuals"

LMAO...

Ya support RNG.. thats totally hardcore tee hee...

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Best post of the thread
Hopefully they'll get the point now, lol.