The idea that we need to DPS must go.

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Originally Posted by Semirhage

Your CORE role is finishing the dungeon, not standing around with a thumb up your butt for the 90% of the encounter that requires zero healing.

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That would be your core objective, my dearie, not your core role. And no dungeon or raid that I know of requires healing for only 1/10 of the duration of any given battle. Or do you just constantly expect perfection from total strangers?

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

The difference is that tanks not mitigating and dps performing poorly is a sign of them failing at their CORE role, while healers are expected to perform their CORE role as well as another role (dps). Don't blame healers for other's failures and don't compare the two situations because they are not the same.

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But by your logic, tanks perform another's role as well: they're suppose to grab enemy attention and mitigate damage (tank's CORE) AND dps.
Not to mention, what better way is there to keep your party alive then eliminating the source of the damage?

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I believe that doing dps as a healer is an accepted expectation in dungeons and raids and definitely a good thing, but I also believe anyone that takes exception to a player not doing dps as a healer needs to get over it. If you are still alive because of the healer then be happy that they are at least doing the minimum while performing their role and close your airhole.

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I was hired as a cashier. A C-A-S-H-I-E-R. Do you honestly expect me to also clean the counters and mop the floor? I don't recall my interview including janitorial services as a part of my job description. That is not. my. job. Sir or madame. You hired me to run the cash register, and that's what I'm doing. What more do you want from me?

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

But by your logic, tanks perform another's role as well: they're suppose to grab enemy attention and mitigate damage (tank's CORE) AND dps.
Not to mention, what better way is there to keep your party alive then eliminating the source of the damage?

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What a silly argument. How do you expect a tank to hold agro without doing damage? Does a healer need to do damage to heal? Obviously not. Logic indeed.

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

That would be your core objective, my dearie, not your core role. And no dungeon or raid that I know of requires healing for only 1/10 of the duration of any given battle. Or do you just constantly expect perfection from total strangers?

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Where is this mysterious constant outgoing damage I keep hearing about? Is there a poison puddle people stand in? I could queue as a WHM right now and guarantee the overwhelming, no contest majority of my casts would be Holy and Glare. That's WITH people playing badly. So yes, it appears as though the game as designed makes my primary activity casting damage spells.

"Healers should heal only" post number 59542565.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

I was hired as a cashier. A C-A-S-H-I-E-R. Do you honestly expect me to also clean the counters and mop the floor? I don't recall my interview including janitorial services as a part of my job description. That is not. my. job. Sir or madame. You hired me to run the cash register, and that's what I'm doing. What more do you want from me?

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I mean, yes? I hope this is you agreeing with me and not you saying that your job forces you to clean up after others. Dude, stand up for yourself. There really IS someone there who is paid to do that for you

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Originally Posted by Mimilu

Not to mention, what better way is there to keep your party alive then eliminating the source of the damage?

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This ^^

Also, whoever revived this thread - well played! :D

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I mean, yes? I hope this is you agreeing with me and not you saying that your job forces you to clean up after others. Dude, stand up for yourself. There really IS someone there who is paid to do that for you

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Wow. I'm legitimately speechless.

Oh, this thread again.

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

I believe that doing dps as a healer is an accepted expectation in dungeons and raids and definitely a good thing, but I also believe anyone that takes exception to a player not doing dps as a healer needs to get over it. If you are still alive because of the healer then be happy that they are at least doing the minimum while performing their role and close your airhole.

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No, sorry. I don’t condone griefing. That’s what you’re doing when you choose not to DPS as a healer.

Why is it that healers get the pass for being practically AFK during content simply because they’re healers? You’d expect DPS and tanks to not be AFK 80% of the time, would you not? You’d expect them to perform their role, right? A part of the healer role now is to deal damage. There’s not enough healing to go around to justify not DPSing, and healers do too much damage to just stand around and it be excusable.

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Originally Posted by Drkdays

And no dungeon or raid that I know of requires healing for only 1/10 of the duration of any given battle. Or do you just constantly expect perfection from total strangers?

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True, in normal mode is even less than 1/10th of the duration