Would you like an in-game parser?

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Player standards vary a lot with this. So do game mechanics. either the gms have to review the intrcacies of each case(which would involve more than what the combat log provides) or it gets open to a very wide interpretation by the players that can affect a lot of unintended targets.

and don't say those attitudes would stay in savage and ex trial, it can and does roll downhill and has since the game started.

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2 types of standar.
1: Being one of the first ones to beat content, know how and when to dps, analyze fight to make sure you have things in details.
2: Just being good enough, don't need to be the top to do that

Problem is, many aren't ''good'' enough. They either need to take advice and if they don't put a parser in game.

No I do not want one. But if such were ever created it needs to be a personal parser.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

The question is "Do players in this game, FFXIV, need the parsers to clear content? Are parsers necessary?"

And the answer to that question - definitively and verifiably - is no, they aren't. Players have been clearing the content just fine without them for almost 3 years now - and doing so pretty darn quickly in many cases.

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And you proof is where?

Its just what you think. But ist not what it is. You will not find a group, that have done a "current tier" endgame raid without knowing their performance.

Did you have finished just a single one of this type of content as long it was "current content"?

I will eat my shorts if you did. So where do you take your "knowledge"?

The answer to your question is: No.

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

Another question is, would parsers give ammunition to those already prone to being asshats, to become even more so? Historically, in every other MMO they've been in, yes, it will. Those people already exist in this game. They even post in these forums - at least a few in this very thread.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

Player standards vary a lot with this. So do game mechanics. either the gms have to review the intrcacies of each case(which would involve more than what the combat log provides) or it gets open to a very wide interpretation by the players that can affect a lot of unintended targets.

and don't say those attitudes would stay in savage and ex trial, it can and does roll downhill and has since the game started.

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If the attitude gets outside of Savage and EX Trials, report it. People who can't keep their entitlement in check outside of the scenarios where parsing can be a useful tool need to get their crap in order. If getting their crap in order includes them getting (temp) banned, so be it.

Unfortunately, regardless of a parser being officially implemented or not, these types of individuals will always exist and should be dealt with accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Seraphix2407

2 types of standar.
1: Being one of the first ones to beat content, know how and when to dps, analyze fight to make sure you have things in details.
2: Just being good enough, don't need to be the top to do that

Problem is, many aren't ''good'' enough. They either need to take advice and if they don't put a parser in game.

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They are in the instance, that's more than enough for them to clear it. the rest is imposing and forcing people under a standard that the game itself does not hold for certain content.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

They are in the instance, that's more than enough for them to clear it. the rest is imposing and forcing people under a standard that the game itself does not hold.

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If its dungeon I Would care less. However i have out dps People with my sch. It shouldnt happen but its a dungeon so its fine. Dont do it around primals or savage and im fine too. Thats where i expect People to pay attention.

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Originally Posted by Seraphix2407

If its dungeon I Would care less. However i have out dps People with my sch. It shouldnt happen but its a dungeon so its fine. Dont do it around primals or savage and im fine too. Thats where i expect People to pay attention.

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You do realize that even if you don't care, there are plenty of others that would use the parser in such a manner, to justify behavior or assumptions towards a player.

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Originally Posted by Kallera

You do realize that even if you don't care, there are plenty of others that would use the parser in such a manner.

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I admit I use parser in dungeons, I simply dont tell them if they are lower than it should be. And you Just prove my point i have posted soooo many times. You have those Who Would then you have those Who arent willing to get better. Simple you have both sides being bad grass. Simply if you want someone to stop naggin you being bad Even if the person is a aashole, try atleast and not ignore. They Wouldnt say anything if there wasnt an issue Just saying.

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Originally Posted by Seraphix2407

I admit I use parser in dungeons, I simply dont tell them if they are lower than it should be. And you Just prove my point i have posted soooo many times. You have those Who Would then you have those Who arent willing to get better. Simple you have both sides being bad grass. Simply if you want someone to stop naggin you being bad Even if the person is a aashole, try atleast and not ignore. They Wouldnt say anything if there wasnt an issue Just saying.

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People say things regardless. I'd rather not have that discussion be all over every group i am participating in. I just don't care for the drama, or being ruthless to be the norm.