Anima Weapons. Putting things into perspective.

Crafted items are the easiest part by far, you can get all the mats in an hour at most. Only way it would ever be hard is if you don't have any gatherers (which is your own fault honestly).

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

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My experience with the crafting side initially was trading back and forth between several friends/acquaintances. I had ARM/BSM/WVR so I could make fletchings for the arrows and squares for the mirrors, but couldn't make the straps to make my francescas and couldn't do anything with kingcakes. I found other people for those specialties and either had them craft for my mats + tip or traded crafts - I'd craft them 4 squares for themselves if they'd turn mine into mirrors, etc. Now that they aren't specialist locked I make all of my own, and actually frequently make extra relic items to list to the market.

I help FC members that don't have gatherers leveled in exchange for them helping me go into diadem and attune to air currents (and in the case of mining/botany, baiting mobs away from nodes).

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

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I'm taking my time with it. I'm well aware that I'm probably poor with about 20 million to my name, but I'm working on earning more gil, and leveling crafting and gathering. I'm not super social, so I do what I can on my own, given that crafting and gathering in this game is very much not my cup of tea. The crafting part of the relic would be my least favourite, but only because I'm still in the process of understanding gathering and crafting (specifically the higher level stuff), and I'm prone to punishing myself in silence, because talking to people is scary for me even for crafting (silly, I know, but I'm not very social). QwQ

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Originally Posted by Berethos

Revisiting this - for both those who haven't finished, and those who have (and/or have multiple or are working on multiple now), what is your experience with the crafting side of it? A lot of the discussion has been about the tokens in general, or the overall process in general terms, but this particular part of that step seems like it could have the biggest variance and I'm curious what everyone's experiences with it so far are?

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I just found crafters on pf mostly and bought 4 at a time. was expensive, but got much cheaper.

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Originally Posted by KaijinRhada

I'm taking my time with it. I'm well aware that I'm probably poor with about 20 million to my name, but I'm working on earning more gil, and leveling crafting and gathering. I'm not super social, so I do what I can on my own, given that crafting and gathering in this game is very much not my cup of tea. The crafting part of the relic would be my least favourite, but only because I'm still in the process of understanding gathering and crafting (specifically the higher level stuff), and I'm prone to punishing myself in silence, because talking to people is scary for me even for crafting (silly, I know, but I'm not very social). QwQ

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Woah woah wait how do you even get that much gil without crafting and gathering??
I dont have any of mine capped yet (going to be working on it after I cap all my DoW/DoM which is almost done) and the most I've had at one time is little over 1 mil. Do you just never spend gil ever?

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Originally Posted by Zari

Woah woah wait how do you even get that much gil without crafting and gathering??
I dont have any of mine capped yet (going to be working on it after I cap all my DoW/DoM which is almost done) and the most I've had at one time is little over 1 mil. Do you just never spend gil ever?

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Retainers can bring you some valuble stuff.

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Originally Posted by Zari

Woah woah wait how do you even get that much gil without crafting and gathering??
I dont have any of mine capped yet (going to be working on it after I cap all my DoW/DoM which is almost done) and the most I've had at one time is little over 1 mil. Do you just never spend gil ever?

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

Retainers can bring you some valuble stuff.

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^^^That, plus I sell everything that can sell well, take opportunities to procure high selling items, and I do a little bit ot market playing.

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Originally Posted by Whiteroom

Retainers can bring you some valuble stuff.

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Unless it's my lazy retainer, who tends to bring back Weak Paralyzing Potions or level 30 common gear (sitting at ilvl 184 too).

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Originally Posted by Ashkendor

It's not hard. Savage is hard. Relic is easy but time consuming.

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I'm sorry, but you can also use the word hard to describe something that is time consuming. Especially in this case. As it requires you to accomplish many tasks and run dungeons over 400 times. It's not by all means easy. In terms of difficulty, Savage is hard, I agree with that. But if I follow your instructions, I can also say savage is easy, it's just time consuming to learn.

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Originally Posted by AngelicSence

I'm sorry, but you can also use the word hard to describe something that is time consuming. Especially in this case. As it requires you to accomplish many tasks and run dungeons over 400 times. It's not by all means easy. In terms of difficulty, Savage is hard, I agree with that. But if I follow your instructions, I can also say savage is easy, it's just time consuming to learn.

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Absolutely not.
One of the mayor design flaws of this game, and MMORPGs in general, is the notion that somehow investing time into something makes it hard or challenge, which honestly, in most cases just challenges one thing, playerbase patience.