Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Happens plenty. I don't know why people keep talking about Alex normal like it's a pushover, because a lot of DF groups make it seem otherwise, and I still get plenty of ragequits and vote abandons in all 4 turns.

To me, pushover content is stuff that even the DF will have a hard time failing. Surprisingly enough, Titan HM, despite being notoriously difficult back in 2.0 days, is something I get a better win rate on than any of the Alex turns nowadays.

Steps of Faith is also there now since the nerf. Never lost it since. Even if someone ends up leaving right at the start (possibly due to not even realizing yet that the fight has been incredibly nerfed) and even when there are multiple screwups, it's really hard to fail this trial nowadays.

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The average df player should not be regarded as the standard though. For every normal player, Alex Normal is a pushover.

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He wouldn't even sing Army's Paeon for himself even though he needed the TP badly. I noticed he wasn't using minuet and kinda got annoyed. I understand some BRDs don't like it. Me personally? I love minuet and get upset when I get synced down so low that I can't use it.

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If he was 53, using Minuet would probably have just been a DPS loss, considering at that point you have none of the only-usable-in-Minuet skills that actually make Minuet worth using. When you first get Minuet, it's kinda trash. I didn't start using it until 54.

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The average df player should not be regarded as the standard though. For every normal player, Alex Normal is a pushover.

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Unless you think most people do their Alex normal runs in premades (which I don't think is the case), it absolutely should be regarded as the standard because that's pretty much what it is.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

Unless you think most people do their Alex normal runs in premades (which I don't think is the case), it absolutely should be regarded as the standard because that's pretty much what it is.

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Couldn't be more true. To some people, who run statics those df runs seem such a joke, but for casual players they are not. Half the time people just aimlessly dying. And they know the strat, it's just hard for them that's all. Hell, I saw topics stating that if you're ilvl165 and struggle in clearing bis ex youre a loser and junk player... The thing is when you're in a premade group everythig seems SO EASY to you because you can coordinate! DF is just a bunch of random people running around.

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Actually I feel cleric stance at lower levels is very well worth it since cleric stance gives 10% dmg boost on top of switching your int/mind.

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Below 20 I have Protect instead, and doing 200 instead of 170 damage on dots is not worth it when I don't know the people and/or in sub-30 dungeons. Rather be safer than sorry with DF. With a premade of friends I'll go all out. I know they're not stupid, are generally geared and know their job. If something happens, it'll be a d/c or weird bug.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

If he was 53, using Minuet would probably have just been a DPS loss, considering at that point you have none of the only-usable-in-Minuet skills that actually make Minuet worth using. When you first get Minuet, it's kinda trash. I didn't start using it until 54.

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Does it not have a baseline dmg boost like Gauss Barrel?
Don't have my BRD to 52 yet, so I just don't know atm.

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Originally Posted by Fynlar

If he was 53, using Minuet would probably have just been a DPS loss, considering at that point you have none of the only-usable-in-Minuet skills that actually make Minuet worth using. When you first get Minuet, it's kinda trash. I didn't start using it until 54.

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He was 54. I'm pretty sure minuet isn't a DPS loss considering as it gives a 30% attack buff which makes up for your auto attacks being disabled. To be honest I think it's best to start using it as soon as you get it so you're used to it so by the time you hit 54 to get Emperyal Arrow it won't feel so weird to you anymore. That's just my opinion though.

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Originally Posted by Kalsam

Does it not have a baseline dmg boost like Gauss Barrel?
Don't have my BRD to 52 yet, so I just don't know atm.

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Yes it does have a basline damage boost of 30%.

I was helping a friend of mine to lvl up his character and we used the DF to run The Sunken Temple of Qarn, I was the healer, after 2 cures I had all the mobs on me, tank was a Warrior then I saw that he was not using Defiance I asked him why he was not using it and he just said "I just started tanking", I explained about the skill but he said that he didn't have it, I gave up and after that I literally tanked the whole dungeon, a Dragoon in the party had the patience to explain the dungeon mechanics to the tank ( not that it mattered ) we got to the last boss and we wiped 3 times, the dragoon then said that he will tank the boss, in the middle of the fight I saw that the tank used Defiance -_-, we finished it and I was so upset that I said "thanks for the party, please never tank again" and left, since then when I get a bad tank or healer I just leave the party and take the 30 min penalty.

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Originally Posted by SchalaZeal

Below 20 I have Protect instead, and doing 200 instead of 170 damage on dots is not worth it when I don't know the people and/or in sub-30 dungeons. Rather be safer than sorry with DF. With a premade of friends I'll go all out. I know they're not stupid, are generally geared and know their job. If something happens, it'll be a d/c or weird bug.

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Going Cleric as your first cross class is pretty standard, especially for people who main healers. You only don't have Protect for the first 2-3 dungeons and the damage in them is pretty pathetic so not having Protect doesn't effect much.

Besides, Eos/Selene can solo heal up until Haukke just fine. So a SCH can easily full time DPS without having to worry at all.

I had a dungeon with a really bad whm, like so bad he never would heal people, even the tank, unless you were about to die, and sometimes not even then. I tried to give him some advice and him and the tank start ripping me a new one claiming I just want to be carried and insulting me. I was playing smn at the time.

As I've been leveling mch recently, whenever I see a brd as the second dps in the party I cry and prepare myself for a long run.