Most of the time, I love Mentor Roulette. I like going through dungeons with new people and letting them see/discover things and offer help when they want/need it. Even things in the current Trial Roulette. But I do not understand why EX Primals are in the Roulette at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality
Mentors are basically powerless when half the party is new in an EX fight, these fights were made to be difficult at level 50 and it's nearly impossible for one person to try to teach 3-7 new people what to do. All it does is make everyone frustrated. If we had the option to do these specific trials undersized or something. It would be much easier to teach because the ability to rebound would be greater and it would be easier to deal with something like having to solo heal or solo tank for extended periods of time.
Even Garuda EX which I've had pop 3-4 times now takes about 3-5 wipes to get a clear. Or Ultima which I've had about a dozen times now, parties I'm in are only able to clear it because I sack myself for the last set of orbs because the pick up is really slow. x.x
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Originally Posted by Yasuhiro
That's a new one to me, but I agree. The Roulette is a very big gamble with the EX runs in there. :x
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03-25-2016, 02:46 PMSelli
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03-25-2016, 03:38 PMWhiteroom
In progress daily ex, Antitower.
Get in to someone saying they didnt notice the healer left and telling the tank to wait.
They are just past the first boss, and the tank is pulling everything down the stairs before I get there. I get a little idea of why the healer left.
Oh well I can heal speed running tanks, even if they aren't very good at it. Kill everything and get a good amount of dps in. Second boss takes awhile to die, dps isn't looking very hot.
Next trash packs burn slow too, and the tank who couldn't even wait for protect before is stopping for at least a minute between each one. I'm just thinking this guy is an ass.
We get to the last boss and the first phase is easy enough, but then in the reverse phase, the tank just stands in the bleeds, and doesn't move at all for the big cure III bomb. The DRG is asking him to move out of the bleed so he can attack. Tank doesn't move despite clearly being there. His name insuate "heal deeznuts" btw. I figure if he wants to take the damage, I should let him. So I stop healing him. He dies and I let the DRG tank the rest, DRG did a better job anyway. -
03-25-2016, 09:19 PMSpiritMuse
Running A7. We wipe once. Three dps insta-leave. The crazy part is that even though we get replacement tanks and healers, no dps ever show up so eventually we have to abandon.
Edit: lol. Another run of A7: This must have been the slowest run ever - we filled LB3 twice. But everyone, including the three new people, did mechanics well and we finished without too much trouble. -
03-26-2016, 02:57 AMZhoRa13Aye, switching targets is what I usually do, as after a few Flashes I can calmly damage the other adds a little with no worries of pulling them. With 1 target I usually just stick to the (sadly) not so obvious "stop DPSing" tactic x)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluestergras
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03-26-2016, 03:00 AMZhoRa13The reason I stopped playing games like LoL and DotA2: people tend to "know better", do what "they know is right", lose, blame everyone else :/ I guess I haven't been playing FFXIV enough to have noticed major issues as most people I've met on roulettes have been either pretty friendly or simply silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
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03-26-2016, 03:41 AMCnidarianFor the most part, I haven't had too much trouble assisting people with their first time EX clears. The main trouble I do find in the 2.X EX primals though are people who have cleared it before trying to skip mechanics when half the party are first timers who might not have the best of gear. It's usually a struggle with these people to get them to do the actual strats and mechanics to the fights instead of the abbreviated strats we were using in pony farm groups at the end of 2.5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Selli
Though, I won't lie about Titan and Levi EX. Both of those have been real struggles to get clears as a lot of people just can't seem to stay on the arenas. Titan I find we can clear him with 25% echo as long as there is 2 dps, a tank, and a healer left standing at heart phase and beyond. Levi can be a total crap shoot though as more often than not people are taking a swim. Usually these 2 end in a vote abandon with 5 minutes left on the timer though. -
03-26-2016, 06:38 AMThe_Shang
Ok, so I've got another one.
Lvl60 roulette with my gf, we hit Saint Mocianne's Arboretum. Now, I've been hunting for the Plague Doctor's Coat for a while now to finish up on this healer glamour idea I had (based on the current glamour for my summoner, just color-swapped-ish) and I knew that it dropped here and in Pharos Sirius HM.
I politely asked in chat if people could pass on the coat if it dropped. The healer, being undergeared and who could use the coat himself, was being a good sport and said he'd pass on it. Meanwhile, the tank pulled the first group while I was still talking to the healer. We were still standing at spawn.
We're off to a good start, don't you think? It doesn't end there...
The tank did *massive* pulls, holding no regard for party composition/gear (some of the healer's stuff was as low as ilvl120, on the left side). Granted, I was playing Summoner, so I could compensate somewhat with Shadow Flare and Bane'd dots, but my gf was on Ninja and the healer obviously had no time to dps.
That's not the worst part though, trash mobs die fast in that place nowadays. Shit happened when a random treasure chest was opened.
It held a Casting ring. Seeing as no one else was a deeps mage, I hit need. Tank immediately goes 'I'm greeding on the coat if it drops'. I was like 'wtf?' From being completely silent for the entire run, Tank goes on a rant which basically comes down to that because I hit need on the ring, I lose the right to roll on the coat, IF it drops. I told the tank that if he wanted the ring, I would have passed. All he had to do was tell me. Queue more ranting. I was really close vote to kicking him, because what he was spouting got to borderline harassment, but we had no one in the FC able to tank and tank queue times have been crap ever since 3.2 dropped, so I put up with it.
We clear the rest of the dungeon with little issue otherwise. In the end, the monk coat dropped. I rolled on it to spite the tank, got 99 on the greed. Felt good. Commended the healer for a job well done, got a commend in return.
At first I thought I made an error by rolling need, but the way the tank reacted took away the guilt. What a jerk. -
03-26-2016, 07:31 AMAskaRay"I'm sooo sorry, tank, I swear I """"forgot"""" to pop quelling before I started my opener!"Quote:
Originally Posted by ZhoRa13
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03-26-2016, 07:23 PMFluestergrasAnd me when I notice that the tank won't hold aggro against me even with Quelling up :o ... ... ...now I know why all my friends say that I'm mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by AskaRay
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03-26-2016, 09:56 PMraela
A6N, and the designated MT didn't know how to hold aggro or something. Was pulling hate halfway into my DRG opener, dumped it with elusive at the end, and immediately raced up the threat list again (as the boss started ping ponging to the other DPS). The other tank stepped in to grab it each time (sometimes after a DPS died) and held it a little better, then would die to mechanics and we'd be back to chaos. High DPS is what saved us from wipes, I think. (MT was pulling before people were ready, which is why the other tank wasn't getting it from the start).
..and then I had an ex roulette yesterday where the PLD was casting cure on himself while I was DPSing on SCH, and was pulling trash packs in Sword Oath.