1 House 1 FC per DC Only

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

What I think would be the easiest way to accomplish it (assuming no other changes to how housing currently works) would be to consider the FC Master the house owner, and limit players to being FC Master of one FC per world per service account.

That wouldn't restrict a player from moving between FCs or having characters on the same world in different FCs. It also wouldn't prevent someone from taking an active leadership role in multiple FCs on the same world as they could still be appointed an Officer while someone else was the FC Master. It shouldn't impair FCs with multiple unique members (unless they all have their own FC outside of the shared one). It also doesn't change the power the FC Master already has over their FC and its housing since they control all rank permissions.

The only time I can think of that it might be come an issue is in a very small FC where all members other than the FC Master have other characters that are already FC Masters of other FCs on the same. It could be others could brainstorm and come up with a situation where it would create a problem that I haven't considered (other than the problem of "but this means I can't get multiple FC houses on the same world").

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What about an FC leader doesn't bother to log in anymore and Master gets transferred to the next guy who is already a FC master on another FC. Also, only Masters can change FC names and tags, but I'm sure you already know these things. We don't know the inner workings of what SE does but let's keep on speculating and telling them what to do.

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Originally Posted by PaalHenrik

What about an FC leader doesn't bother to log in anymore and Master gets transferred to the next guy who is already a FC master on another FC. Also, only Masters can change FC names and tags, but I'm sure you already know these things. We don't know the inner workings of what SE does but let's keep on speculating and telling them what to do.

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FC Master would switch to the next eligible member based on the auto-dethrone procedures that SE already has in place, not just next in line based on rank/length of membership. If you would read everything I posted, I did bring up the possibility of all other members in the FC already being a FC Master in a different FC but that's a very remote possibility unless the FC only has 2 or 3 unique members in the first place. It's an extremely tiny percentage of FCs that this might effect - outside of the solo FCs that exist solely for the purpose of getting more houses and which is prompting the conversation.

Not certain why you bring up FC names and tags. Nothing about what I suggest would change how that works.

We're not telling SE what to do. We're making suggestions regarding things we consider to be problems with the game. SE will listen or not as they want. They will implement or not as they want.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

FC Master would switch to the next eligible member based on the auto-dethrone procedures that SE already has in place, not just next in line based on rank/length of membership. If you would read everything I posted, I did bring up the possibility of all other members in the FC already being a FC Master in a different FC but that's a very remote possibility unless the FC only has 2 or 3 unique members in the first place. It's an extremely tiny percentage of FCs that this might effect - outside of the solo FCs that exist solely for the purpose of getting more houses and which is prompting the conversation.

Not certain why you bring up FC names and tags. Nothing about what I suggest would change how that works.

We're not telling SE what to do. We're making suggestions regarding things we consider to be problems with the game. SE will listen or not as they want. They will implement or not as they want.

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Being an officer means you can't change the FC tag or name. So you don't get all the perks of calling the shots in an FC. Why would I read everything you post when what I'm only responding to one specific post that didn't take into consideration to what happens if the FC lead auto-shifts to another member who has FC lead elsewhere. The remoteness of someone already having FC lead in another FC are about as remote as the RMT sub farms that people seem to think are rampant.

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Originally Posted by PaalHenrik

Being an officer means you can't change the FC tag or name. So you don't get all the perks of calling the shots in an FC. Why would I read everything you post when what I'm only responding to one specific post that didn't take into consideration to what happens if the FC lead auto-shifts to another member who has FC lead elsewhere. The remoteness of someone already having FC lead in another FC are about as remote as the RMT sub farms that people seem to think are rampant.

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You're nitpicking that you wouldn't be able to change the FC name and tag if you were only an officer and not the Master? When the situation would set that up is because you're already Master of a different FC that you did get to name?

Seriously?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

If you would read everything I posted, I did bring up the possibility of all other members in the FC already being a FC Master in a different FC but that's a very remote possibility unless the FC only has 2 or 3 unique members in the first place.

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Doesn't matter if only a small number of people are affected. It would be unacceptable for the automatic FC leader transfer to stop functioning under certain circumstances. Any feature the fc leader has restricted from members would be permanently out of reach after the leader quits the game. Other people in the FC could have items/gil in the bank they can't access, furniture in the house, an unusable garden or a workshop they helped build and can't use. Unless it has been fixed, the leader can also revoke access to people's FC chambers and prevent them from leaving the FC and moving servers.

No reason to break game features because of NA problems, or prune fc houses when every server has fc plots available for those who want them.

Stop trying to put requirements and to implement punishments when there is enough houses for everyone.

Dynamis exists for NA, and EU has booming housing on new worlds, and even on old words there are still a lot of them.

Enough of trying to create new annoyances already, for a problem that doesn't exist

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

You're nitpicking that you wouldn't be able to change the FC name and tag if you were only an officer and not the Master? When the situation would set that up is because you're already Master of a different FC that you did get to name?

Seriously?

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You call that nitpicking? You're the one saying it's all hunky dory, because an officer can do ANYTHING an FC leader can do, but they can't. It's not as black and white as you make it out to be.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

No one is trying to make you doubt your own sanity.

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No, they're just trying to warp the reality of the situation.

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Originally Posted by WinglessSeraphim

When you are done picking and choosing what you find in your search of my posts, maybe you can work on your posts full of misinformation.

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Honestly it'd be great if you would do the same. I've not posted any kind of misinformation and constantly showed my sources. A lot of repeat conversations could be avoided if you'd just catch up on previous posts.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

Yes, I know what it says on the patch, the same as I know what it says on the site. But there was never a mechanical restriction on FC transfers. Any claim to the contrary is false.

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Yeah, FC plot purchases, not transfers.

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Originally Posted by Starien

It's clear that there are some players who are taking clever advantage to build on multiple FC plots, but I am curious what a solution to this would be which would not end up hurting players who switch FCs.

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That is indeed the rub and most likely why little has been done since.

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Originally Posted by CatStarwind

No, they're just trying to warp the reality of the situation.


Honestly it'd be great if you would do the same. I've not posted any kind of misinformation and constantly showed my sources. A lot of repeat conversations could be avoided if you'd just catch up on previous posts.


Yeah, FC plot purchases, not transfers.


That is indeed the rub and most likely why little has been done since.

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You've done nothing but post misinformation and 3 year old opinions of other people who were wrong. You've posted no evidence, just the same tired screenshots. You've so far, a couple of times, tried to compare what that raiding group did (3rd party usage) to owning more than 1 fc per world. You've had your ass handed to you by another poster, multiple times. I think people are getting a bit tired of you, I know I am.

Looks like the discussion on housing hasn't changed a lot in the 6 months I've been away.

Go on.