Shadowbringers starting to feel like a budget expansion

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Following the trend we're seeing, in next expansion we'll get 10 minute dungeon with old recolored sets only as rewards, with no minion and same mechanics, but it will have big explosion in the middle of it, so it will be really cool to look once. Wait a second... We're half way to it.

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You are aware many Dungeons dont have Minion drops in them right?
We already have a short Dungeon: Haukke Manor-Hardmode
Alot of Mechanics are already recycled over the past few Years
Big Explosion in the Middle? Sounds like Amaurot and alot of other dungeons.

Everything you listed is already a thing, and its not even recent

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

E8S was honestly the only major outlier in this tier as far as as how rough the DPS check was.

E5S and E6S were about as bad as E1S and E2S, while E7S was a total joke compared to E3S.

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Well, if you say so. I certainly don't feel that way about E6S. To be frank I could see swaths of people just not ever break past E6S without going to a 490 weapon. There's probably a lack of skill in general as well as self entitlement from a lot of the people who supposedly seen enrage on it multiple times. That and with the amount of content there is to grind out there's no reason they couldn't just give people an extra minute to finish the boss off. It might make it too easy, but I'd prefer that over what we got.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

You are aware many Dungeons dont have Minion drops in them right?
We already have a short Dungeon: Haukke Manor-Hardmode
Alot of Mechanics are already recycled over the past few Years
Big Explosion in the Middle? Sounds like Amaurot and alot of other dungeons.

Everything you listed is already a thing, and its not even recent

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Everything I listed was an irony, that why I ended sentence that way. But hey, someone was so clever that literally taking words out of context. If you do simplistic dungeons like that, at least do 2 of them, it's more content than one. Or at least change the design behind them, do something new and fresh, this way even one will be enough if it's interesting.
People need to understand that doing a boss in a circle is a different experience than doing a dungeon with crafted environment and design, you can't compare it to hunts, craft or sightseeing log, the closest you can get is deep dungeon, but we're not gonna get it as well.

I will say for ppl who complain about having no content, well just open your achievements list and start to clear stuff from there, when you have 20k points then we can talk.

cheers

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Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust

I will say for ppl who complain about having no content, well just open your achievements list and start to clear stuff from there, when you have 20k points then we can talk.

cheers

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I could start counting grains of sand on the beach and it would be as fun and entertaining as collecting these brownie points for shits and giggles. Not to mention rewarding.

The complaint is that there is nothing fun or meaningful to do. And most people don't care about a meaningless number on a sub-page.

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Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust

I will say for ppl who complain about having no content, well just open your achievements list and start to clear stuff from there, when you have 20k points then we can talk.

cheers

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How about we click Cancel Recurring Subscription and play games instead of Sekker-To-do-list simulator?

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Originally Posted by dinnertime

It's funny that people are suddenly saying they love Eureka and they want it to come back when last expansion there's constant threads about it saying it's the worst thing ever and that the devs should stop continuing it.

I mean yeah, the relic grind this time is pretty short, but they can improve/extend the grind in a more engaging manner. A zone with the only thing to do there is just killing X amount of trash mobs to spawn a FATE in a new coat of paint is not really "interesting" content I'd want them to revisit, and most people did as well.

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Also please remember that at the time of Eureka you already had people that loved Eureka..there is nothing strange to have someone come in and say that its better. It would only be strange if that comes out of the mouth of someone that hated Eureka...but honestly even that would be possible if the new content is even worse..

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Originally Posted by SekkerOfTrust

I will say for ppl who complain about having no content, well just open your achievements list and start to clear stuff from there, when you have 20k points then we can talk.

cheers

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Of course because achivements are content...well if that is all that is needed would you be fine if we dont get any new content at all and just new achievements? Here have something in the millions..farm that for x months thats surely fun and rewarding..especially since you only get achievement points out of it that are worth nothing...

And before someone comes in with the: you only have x jobs (because that surely means someone cant make good points..)..I have every single job at 80..I have crafted each recipe other than the newest ones..I have two houses and I think nearly 12k or 13k achievement points..right now I am crafting at least everything from the work shop once to have that done..I know a grind..yet I fully agree with the OP..we get even less this expansion..and right now there is nothing there to justify that. Heck we even had the highest amount of subs..and the highest amount of cash shop items...and yet we get less. IMO a successful MMO should only built onto their basics..it should not decrease their basics again and again while giving us either really niche content or something that is done way too fast..heck I was looking forward to Ishgard and it turned into nothing but Rowena turn in but with points and a few fates..now we dont even get a new deep dungeon and the first relic step is the shortest ever..

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Also if I remember it correctly a reddit thread posted the newest lucky bancho numbers and we lost nearly 200k subs..seems that Ishgard and all this stuff cant keep people that are not that much into crafting subbed..good that we will now have a relic that is finished in one hour and patches that will be delayed (even if its not their fault) even futher..will be great for the sub numbers..

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Also please remember that at the time of Eureka you already had people that loved Eureka..there is nothing strange to have someone come in and say that its better. It would only be strange if that comes out of the mouth of someone that hated Eureka...but honestly even that would be possible if the new content is even worse..

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Of course there are people who loved it, but I'm speaking about the majority here.

No one can really deny that the majority did not like Eureka, and the people who liked it are the odd ones out.

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Originally Posted by yukiiyuki

Everything I listed was an irony, that why I ended sentence that way. But hey, someone was so clever that literally taking words out of context. If you do simplistic dungeons like that, at least do 2 of them, it's more content than one. Or at least change the design behind them, do something new and fresh, this way even one will be enough if it's interesting.
People need to understand that doing a boss in a circle is a different experience than doing a dungeon with crafted environment and design, you can't compare it to hunts, craft or sightseeing log, the closest you can get is deep dungeon, but we're not gonna get it as well.

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Thats your attempt at Irony? Yikes...Need to work on it a little.
Nah, Id rather do 1 better if not Slightly better "Simplistic Dungeon" instead of 2 Mediocre Dungeons that get pushed out because people think we need 2 and cant be happy with 1. If dungeon running is all you care about, then thats you man, run them till your hearts content.

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Originally Posted by Lersayil

I could start counting grains of sand on the beach and it would be as fun and entertaining as collecting these brownie points for shits and giggles. Not to mention rewarding.

The complaint is that there is nothing fun or meaningful to do. And most people don't care about a meaningless number on a sub-page.

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regardless if you find it fun or not its content, this game is a themepark, some ppl will have fun on something that others dont enjoy and viceversa.
I actually starting fishing legend fishes cuz im done whit all 28 relics that came on 5.25, and i have many days to get em all.