So, how is Pagos?

Running the train in Anemos was moderately enjoyable. Pagos seems to be leaning towards pure mob grinding in a game that was designed so that mob grinding is pretty much objectively wrong in any situation. Based on what I've seen and what I've read from others, this isn't just because people need to level to make the train efficient, but because NMs just don't spawn as much. Pagos is, as of now, looking like it may be the single worst thing ever put in this game.

Admittedly, I did not enjoy Anemos much at first, but the NM train made it bearable and I liked the idea of being able to make relics quickly after finishing the leveling grind.

I'm really hoping we just don't know enough about Pagos yet because my experience has been unbelievably boring. I don't know if I can keep doing this if Pagos really is 95% grinding tanky mobs for tiny amounts of exp compared to how much is needed to level.

This is supposed to be a game that provides entertainment, right? Right now, it sort of reminds me of peeling potatoes. A whole lot of boring tedious work to make delicious things except for, in Pagos, we're peeling with a spoon so we can eat them raw.

So much boring work, so little reward.

I just spent a little over an hour grinding on Wyverns at level 24. When I started, I had almost no exp on my bar. Fulltime grinding and two NMs later (Brothers and Ash Dragon) and I was at 250k exp. Out of something like 835k.

My eyes were involuntarily closing, I was barely looking at the screen, timers and boredom made the party members rotate constantly, and at the end my wrists hurt.

So far, feels like a swing and a miss.

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Originally Posted by EdwinLi

They really need to rethink how they plan to handle Eureka.

there is a lot of miss potential to make Eureka unique from other parts of the game and provide both solo and group challenges but their focus on designing Eureka around a group content for mindless grinding only.

The challenge log is nice addition but I have to say good lukc for those who are behind on their levels because that stuff only benefits players who are leveling in a group of their same level range. If anything I think it may make people less likely to help players level their characters in Eureka.

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It's probably too late to rethink Eureka. Unless they are planning to release the last part right before 5.0 then they probably don't have enough time to make serious changes to their formula. Seeing as how since 3.1, starting with Diadem, till now they keep pushing such low effort unimaginative content I imagine they either can't or won't implement something better. Quite frankly unless enough people unsub and they understand its for how much they rehash content and don't do anything truly new, they have no reason to improve the quality of the content.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

Do the chains actually drop the Pagos crystals though. I was chaining for 6 hours on Tuesday, and the only Pagos Crystals I received were from the NMs—not a single one dropped from the mobs we were killing (Blood Demon and the Worms). The Frosted Protean crystals, if I recall correctly from what I’ve read, come from your Light Farming.

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I've had the same result. One lockbox and crystal from one NM out of the few I participated in. I have yet to see anything other than XP from mobs.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

Quick thought: they could have added far more magicite or similar items hidden all over the map and discovering them would yield some exp, like sightseeing logs. I think people would appreciate any alternative exp methods to supplement enemy grinding. The main flaw in eureka is enemy grinding alone is too shallow an activity to stretch for the amount of hours we need to spend there. You notice too quickly how repetitive and slow-motion it feels with enemies having a lot of HP and yielding little exp for the trouble to pad things out. We need more exp methods for variety, like discovery/sightseeing and the bunny thing, but let people have a guaranteed carrot per day from an npc at Icepoint and reward exp for uncovering the bunny loot.

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I have thought adding in unique crafting materials and treasure boxes like you see in Diadem would help by letting you do something other than mindlessly kill mobs.

Another great time in pagos. I saw about 6 mms in 1 hour I think this morning. All the while my pt just sat there having fun chaining. We only got silver once so that was cool to. I ate food today to boost dmg and get that 3% xp boost. I noticed the dragons would cast w.e ability back to back if I stunned it. Up to three times but I only have two stuns. Also I put all elemental points into one for maximum damage. None can stand in the way of the dragoon! Maybe tonight I'll form a "bunny party " farm up some mats.

Reasons to explore would be nice. Clickable lore fragments, chests, sightseeing points. Let us learn more about Anemos, give us a reason to explore this area. Just give us something to break the monotony, please.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

Reasons to explore would be nice. Clickable lore fragments, chests, sightseeing points. Let us learn more about Anemos, give us a reason to explore this area. Just give us something to break the monotony, please.

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This.

FFXIV marketed itself as an MMO that took its storytelling and world building serious. With that in mind, it's worrying that side content seems to miss that mark.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

Reasons to explore would be nice. Clickable lore fragments, chests, sightseeing points. Let us learn more about Anemos, give us a reason to explore this area. Just give us something to break the monotony, please.

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So much this.

Especially if they rotate and refresh daily with (very) large exp rewards.

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Originally Posted by Wyvernheart

Another great time in pagos. I saw about 6 mms in 1 hour I think this morning. All the while my pt just sat there having fun chaining. We only got silver once so that was cool to. I ate food today to boost dmg and get that 3% xp boost. I noticed the dragons would cast w.e ability back to back if I stunned it. Up to three times but I only have two stuns. Also I put all elemental points into one for maximum damage. None can stand in the way of the dragoon! Maybe tonight I'll form a "bunny party " farm up some mats.

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

Reasons to explore would be nice. Clickable lore fragments, chests, sightseeing points. Let us learn more about Anemos, give us a reason to explore this area. Just give us something to break the monotony, please.

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Found the ESO player. (And I agree, I love the open world in ESO).