Should FF14 take a new route? Discussion

The devs should add more 8-man dungeons or make the next 8-man normal "raids" similar to how Alexander normal was. The current 8-man normal "raids" might as well be called "Trials" for all I care.

Also in 8-man normal raids from previous patches, make at least one piece of gear drop aside from the currency drops to increase incentive of running them.

And for Crafting/Fishing Levequests, bring back the "Ingenuity" type quests (these are the ones that have the quest giver and item recipient at different locations, with a high reward to match the travel time/cost).

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Originally Posted by Aerlana

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WoW is $15/FF is $13.

Not everyone plays both games the way you do, some had to grind for weeks for allied races, only to get punched in the face with the reworked leveling. As for FFXIV, I have no reason atm to pay anymore than standard sub fee, and while I think some things you have to pay for should be baseline, you at least get the option.

If what you got from my post was "FFXIV isnt that bad compared to WoW" then you're not completely wrong, and that's my point. You just seem really dead-set on crucifying this game with your negative attitude.

Recent decisions are bad for this game, but it's not at the stage WoW is at and nobody wants it getting there.

That app needs to GO! That is the one thing I will agree with everyone and say it's a big fat NO! I love this game and feel the content we get is awesome, I also understand the cash shop has a completely different team that's not tied to the normal devs for the game. And that's fine, but SE listen to me... alot of your paying costumers hate that as it is. You seriously think making a paying app for phones is going to help you with them or the general people at large? So much for LBR being in a good mood :c but in this case .. I agree with the incoming backlash.

Okay, thoughts.

1. the app isn't entirely good, but I think people are overreacting a lot. This is probably the mildest "pay for power" thing I have ever seen, with very limited reach save for market barons. I do think it is troublesome as a first step, but the cash shop here is still incredibly mild for what it is. Some MMOS would essentially charge us rl cash for the materials that let us meld gear, and the materia itself would be random out of a gacha box.

2. ..it's really dangerous to change direction. I'm worried they would just go in the other way and start making things a lot harder to do. Idk, I think the devs would need to do a lot of research and planning to even try, and it may be something to build into the next MMO, not this one.

3. The game does have issues. I'm playing less myself. I think it is evident that the "less content but more niche or experimental things" isn't working well.

For one thing here is what I believe Yoshi P. should at least try:

1) All Dungeons would have random encounters instead of Fixed encounters so that way each dungeon run is different every time, he could take it further by adding rare encounters inside the dungeon like how Classic Final Fantasy always did.

2) Reduce Normal Enemy HP to a more practical amount except special enemies and give them more better abilities & specific battle patterns, this was one complaint among many players as normal enemies really don't offer any challenge whatsoever. Again this goes back to Classic Final Fantasy when even some normal enemies had something hellish behind their fierce gaze.

3) Stop relying on many instant Death Mechanics within one Savage Boss, I find this really unfair for the people who Play Savage Content as one mistake could end the raid in disaster. People who don't have that kind of time to spare constantly, and it is really deterring them away from the content half of the time.

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Originally Posted by JCharms

This is as simple and correct as it can get. Continued financial support of the game = supporting the games direction, even if you don't.
Only when all these people vote with their wallets and move on, will they have a serious look at the overall and wider design decisions.

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Except the norm for SE when seeing financial decline or instability in a product is to shore up all risk or cut their losses... A month's boycott gamewide, even by the majority of players in each and every region, would most likely simply cut development of all but the stalest (and to the supervising staff, sturdiest) content forms.

I think SE as a whole should take a new route. If I were a stockholder, I'd be looking to fire the entire leadership team.

I really can't say for a certainty how much of a new direction FFXIV itself needs. I'd certainly remove Yoshi-P from any involvement with FFXIV if I had my way; he doesn't seem to have any ambition left in him, and the game is stagnating under his stewardship. That said, I think XIV could probably do well with only small changes; more responsiveness to the community, real efforts to add QoL features, and a bit more creativity are probably all it needs. There's a solid foundation to build on. All it needs now is a director with the willpower to take some risks.

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Originally Posted by Vhailor

I think SE as a whole should take a new route. If I were a stockholder, I'd be looking to fire the entire leadership team.

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This makes no sense. Stockholders are interested in profits, and as long as the game keeps producing numbers to their satisfaction the game will not change. SquareEnix is extremely unique in that it is the only company to ever completely REDO their MMO after a complete flop. This means they are probably more conservative than ever in changing the status quo of what's working to try new things. To the company, Yoshida is the one who salvaged their game and made it profitable.

It may seem the game is stagnant to you. Stockholders see numbers and make decisions on that, not on their in-game experience.

By the way, I completely agree the game is stagnant (recently unsubbed after seeing the latest live letter) but to say you'd fire the entire leadership team if you were a stockholder makes absolutely zero sense.

make a new mmo with action based combat is my thing. as others said, they would need to rework this game from the ground up and a lot of people won't like it. the watered down battle system is killing us from any fun and new content.
I just wanna new ff mmo at this point.
I am sorry but I can barely stomach this game anymore.

monthly boycott of a free service how does that help anyone. the app is free. SE is doing fine