I like your posts regarding the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by PrismaticDaybreak
Basically I'm a "caster" main, meaning I play all three. Mainly dependent on mood, secondly I may go with whichever is better for the fight or group composition. i.e. I'll play SMN if a BLM is in group to buff his magic damage. Or go RDM in a highly mobile fight where I'm not sure of the phases yet. I tend to default to BLM if I'm after "big d*ck DPS". But my numbers are quite competitive on all 3. (You can check my FFLogs but disregard my V2S BLM one :P).
Anyways, my only gripe with RDM which turned me off playing it the last couple of days is that my previous static group blamed me for a wipe in V2S for using BLM because when both healers died to the same mechanic, no one was there to raise them despite the perfect handling of mechanics and the near 5k DPS on said attempt. Ironically, I swapped to RDM, both healers died to the same mechanic at the same time, a double raise saved the wipe and got us the kill.
Now I'm not saying the kill is fully credited to my 4k DPS + 2 raises making RDM OP. But it is frustrating when the community blames the lack of a certain utility on another class that performs better and "forces" you to play another job.
This issue, sadly, not only plagues the casters role, but also the tanks (PLD is the culprit), healers (AST I'm looking at you), melee (hi there NIN) and ranged physical (BRD, stop bullying your gunslinger buddy).
And I honestly do not think it is a balance issue as some of these classes aren't even the best in their roles, but a rather community interpretation of data issue.
~ Phoenicia ~
Is there any reason to play BLM over RDM now days?
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08-01-2017, 12:37 PMPhoenicia
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08-01-2017, 11:05 PMShiroe
rdm damage does not need a nerf, its ok that a class can give out constant damage like it is..
but either its rez needs a slight nerf (dual cast has no effect on rez, need swiftcast like the smn, making it as valid as smn in groups), or/and ajust embolden (see quit a few wanting rdm over blm for that reason too)..
as for blm, fix B4 rota, making it a clear dps increase compared to 3.0 rota, making blm as valid as sam with all the buffs it gets (blm gets so little), and fix the fire 1 astral lose during astral ice
as for smn, slight ruin 3 buff + fix demi-Bahamut, so it casts even when it moves. -
08-01-2017, 11:35 PMThorbotWhat actually kind of content are you doing? BLM pretty much beats RDM is every fight right now and does just as much constant damage. You seem to have this twisted notion that BLM are unable to cast half the time which is just not true at all. Just to further test it for myself, I did some practice for o3s to farm animals phase on my RDM and it still feels worse than BLM. The uptime of casting is equal but half the time I don't want to c-a-c + disengage to screw up positioning. Don't even get me started on o1 or o2 where we can have pretty much full uptime on casting with BLMQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiroe
And I'm really not sure of where this meme about the 3.0 rotation being better came from. Ever since the buffs, 4.0 rotations is unquestionably better. So no 3.0 rotation and god forbid if you use the 2.0 rotation like that idiotic reddit post suggested. If you are using the 3.0 rotation then that might be the reason BLM isn't doing as much for you compared to RDMs. -
08-01-2017, 11:48 PMShiroetalking about the majority of rdm, they're dps is more constant, besides when learning a fight.., I just posted leave their dps as it is, but their constant dps, melee like + rez + embolden is still too much.., still have issuesin pfs as blm or smnQuote:
Originally Posted by Thorbot
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08-02-2017, 12:03 AMCiderfoxNo they aren't. Go look at logs, BLM outdps RDM on every fight and every percentile. There dps isn't "more constant" whatever the hell that means. I think it's time for you to stop posting. You are just spewing nonsense that isn't supported by any facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiroe
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08-02-2017, 12:15 AMShiroefflog upload often the best runs, besides some weekly kills..., go in any random pf with a blm and rdm.., the rdm will "constantly" do ok damage..., the blms will do bad, ok, good..., theyre dps (also depending on rng) is not as constant.., even if a good blm out dps a good rdmQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciderfox
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08-02-2017, 12:48 AMRemedi
or maybe the blms you found that did bad were......bad, personally my dps is constant in the savage fights I've done with pugs
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08-02-2017, 12:56 AMMelvinK
tht is just anecdote experience , not a fact. you are quick to dismiss facts (as evidenced in fflog) since fact do not aligned with your belief. FFlog upload include both bad and good runs. Good run are of course are high percentile while bad run you get low percentile. Go to FFlog statistic and check the low percentile run (basically thats what u mean by bad run) and see the sample sizes. Its more than enough to establish facts that BLM is doing good damage than RDM at all percentile level.
As for your argument RDM is doing "better" dps during practice is nonsense and one-sided. Every class require practice to nail down fight mechanic and best window to dps, where to stand etc.. BLM may have higher learning curve but once u get past the curve u will be doing more damage than anyone. If thats what u hate about BLM then may i suggest you reroll, yoshi mentioned before they dont balance class based on difficulty.
Also to counter your point about embolden is too good that is only partially true. The real issue is there isn't any good casters buff to allow people adopt caster heavy composition than melee/physical composition. And i dont understand the mentality that something good must be taken away, why cant it be shared? Instead of embolden be taken away, why not make embolden also buff magic? Win Win?? Then people may start exploring caster heavy compositon replacing SAM with BLM -
08-02-2017, 01:06 AMShiroe
not saying rdm is doing less, but more constant,....has to do with the lower skill ceiling for rdm in real raids.., theres a higher risk blm wont do as good (or die) and get punished more
and rdm offers utility on 2 levels, the best rez and embolden..., so does smn in a way, but rdm will still be favoured over smn (and often still blm unless you can ffing prove a high pars on fflogs)
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08-02-2017, 01:41 AMPrismaticDaybreak
You can't just say your experience with RDM over taking BLM is the bottom line, it doesn't work that way for almost everyone else, if people made balance decisions off of that every class would just launch a colored ball from their hand and they'd all do the same damage.
Also, Bahamut does cast when it moves, you just have to cast while you're moving to make it stop and use it's instant cast wyrmwave, which is probably why everyone says it doesn't cast and move.