Against "Simultaneous Logout Measures"

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

It's a good thing you'd get an hour notice then! If people are clever enough to start a dungeon with only a short period of time remaining, that's on them.

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You're right! Why didn't anybody else just think of this? Why, the solution to this is just to deal with it! I'll log-in to the game right now and tell all my fellow 60+ minute queue DPS mates that we should just suck it up when we're 30 minutes in to our 60 min and up queues, and the little "BTW my dude, you have one hour to get in to the duty, and then whatever time is left over to finish it!". That way we can just go "Oh, shoot! Looks like we're out of luck boys. Haha, pack it in, and try again later!" and log out, so we can START OVER AGAIN when we're allowed to get booted, sit through a QUEUE TO LOG-IN, SO I CAN SIT IN A QUEUE FOR 60+ MINUTES AGAIN!

Brilliant!

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

I'm not quite sure why so many people on non-congested servers are having a hissy over this.

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Because I'm a DPS, not a Tank or a Healer, so I could very well get my ass kicked out while I'm waiting for my ridiculously long queue just so I can play the game. I don't care if it takes me 10 extra minutes to log-in, or if it's instant. It's stupid, and I'm being punished because everybody and their mother wants to play on Balmung.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

It's a good thing you'd get an hour notice then! If people are clever enough to start a dungeon with only a short period of time remaining, that's on them.

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There are plenty of situations that waste a LOT of time because of this. Imagine getting home from work, logging in, and queueing for a dungeon as a DPS. ~1hour queue time - oh well, time to make some dinner while you wait. 20 min into the queue you see the message "servers will be taken down in 1hour for auto kick!" So...do you risk it and stay in queue and hope you can get in and out of the dungeon before auto kick? Do you decide not to take the risk and go do something else (that you didn't want to do) instead? Either way, it just ruins someones playtime (potentially) because of that 1.5 hours of "wasted" time. Just because you get a warning doesn't mean it isn't extremely disruptive.

I believe that clarification is needed more before judging if this is a good idea or a bad ide. The community is split both ways on how this is being said:

1. Its going to be either the extreme version by logging EVERYONE off the DC in a 24 hour time frame and I mean Everyone even if you been logged on for 30 minutes to 3 hours...


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2. It just means that Only the Players that have been on for 24 hours cheating the 30 minutes AFK log out timer get booted for 10 minutes...

I can see the best course the News could be would be the 2nd option and that a 2nd announcement needs to be made to clarify what they means... Hopefully the Community Team are on top of this right now for clarification.

Getting upset over this is a kneejerk reaction. They are trying to fix server congestion, let them try it. People have been abusing being able to stay permanently logged in for far too long. If they wipe the server and THEN it still takes you over 15 minutes to log in, then complaints can be valid. Otherwise id like suggest that people calm down.

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Originally Posted by Redgate

You're right! Why didn't anybody else just think of this? Why, the solution to this is just to deal with it! I'll log-in to the game right now and tell all my fellow 60+ minute queue DPS mates that we should just suck it up when we're 30 minutes in to our 60 min and up queues, and the little "BTW my dude, you have one hour to get in to the duty, and then whatever time is left over to finish it!". That way we can just go "Oh, shoot! Looks like we're out of luck boys. Haha, pack it in, and try again later!" and log out, so we can START OVER AGAIN when we're allowed to get booted, sit through a QUEUE TO LOG-IN, SO I CAN SIT IN A QUEUE FOR 60+ MINUTES AGAIN!

Brilliant!

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Nice post, not sure if there was enough sarcasm.

Anyway, it's a temporary measure. If you happen to be an unfortunate DPS in this situation, it is still your decision to enter a dungeon or not once you see that message pop up. You have the choice to cut your losses or try and push your luck. If you push your luck, then that is all on you.

And to clarify - yes, I understand it is frustrating and disruptive. It's annoying to set out with a certain goal in mind for your day, and then have to potentially change it - but it is what it is at this point.

Err my server doesn't have long queue times even though it's one of JP most populated server. So why is this a thing for the rest of us who are not having this issue..?

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People have been abusing being able to stay permanently logged in for far too long.

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To be quite honest, being kicked from a game for being idle is something I'd expect out of something F2P, like RuneScape... not something I pay a monthly sub for.

I'm at least thankful that the idle kick is something that only gets put in place when it's actually warranted and that it's not something hard coded into the game at all times.

While I understand where they're coming from, I wish they'd test it out fist on balmung.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Nice post, not sure if there was enough sarcasm.

Anyway, it's a temporary measure. If you happen to be an unfortunate DPS in this situation, it is still your decision to enter a dungeon or not once you see that message pop up. You have the choice to cut your losses or try and push your luck. If you push your luck, then that is all on you.

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"You have the choice to try and play the game you pay for, or wait even longer so you can wait to play the game, just so Balmung can log in easier, despite their log-in queues not effecting you in any manner whatsoever."

Yeah, riveting. I can see why this idea goes over so well with everybody not on Balmung.

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Originally Posted by Redgate

"You have the choice to try and play the game you pay for, or wait even longer so you can wait to play the game, just so Balmung can log in easier, despite their log-in queues not effecting you in any manner whatsoever."

Yeah, riveting. I can see why this idea goes over so well with everybody not on Balmung.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Yes, ideally they would have figured out a way to have this be done on only the affected servers, but SE does weird things at times.

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Let me post this little gem for you. You're barking up the wrong tree.