About Esuna, Exalted Detriment and Leeches change

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

As I'm fond of saying, Swiftcast is not for raise.

In raid progression I might reserve it at certain points to help recover if something goes wrong (assuming it's not one of those scenarios where any death guarantees failure).

In other content, if a party member dies...well, they can wait the extra few seconds for a hard-cast if I don't happen to have SC handy, or they can go bye-Felicia stage left and poof back. People die infrequently enough that it's not really an issue.

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Well, as a SCH, it's pretty much just for raise and fairy resummons. The only other spell a SCH had with a cast longer than gcd was Shadowflare, and with that instant now...

For WHM and AST it's true, though. A very useful utility.

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Originally Posted by Ootarion

The problem with taking away Shroud of Saints from WHM and Luminiferous Aether from ASTs and throwing it into Cross Role as Lucid Dreaming is this needlessly took away a built in MP Regen from both classes, which didnt need to be done just to give SCH another MP regen when they already had 2 but if they needed another one, all they had to do was just add one to SCH as well.

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Again... This is a game... Technically everything is needless. Explain what is wrong with the design rather than make general complains about what changed. For example, how does giving SCH access to LD hurt balance?

Remember too that they increased SCH mp cost for AoEing. AST and WHM had significant mp costs for AoE while SCH was very cheap comparatively.

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Originally Posted by winsock

Again... This is a game... Technically everything is needless. Explain what is wrong with the design rather than make general complains about what changed. For example, how does giving SCH access to LD hurt balance?

Remember too that they increased SCH mp cost for AoEing. AST and WHM had significant mp costs for AoE while SCH was very cheap comparatively.

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I never once said that giving SCH access to an MP Regen effect was hurting balance, now you are just putting words in my mouth -.-

Furthermore I have again and again said what was wrong, but I am not gonna repeat myself again.

This is a game yes, but games have a point, they are meant to be fun, and even changes made to a game need to make sense. I could make an analogy right now but Im betting you would question it as well, cause you dont want to be wrong.

There is a difference between complaining and openly voicing a disagreement with something that SE is doing, and I am just voicing my disagreement.