Desynthesis Endgame Guide

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Originally Posted by Starrywisdom

Any reason to synergize any together that we know of?
Currently the lowest used three?

I've got all my crafts maxed and looking to go ahead and max 3 desynths, guessing everyone and their mom's have done gsm and bsm? Looking to go into the niche markets; even if they are awful now(in the chance they may become better).

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My understanding is that other than CUL the only things you get back from desynth is the base mats of the item and demimateria. So there is no real niche markets outside of primal demimateria which I believe is only used for making the i95 crafted primal weapons.

So its more whatever is cheaper (WVR,LTW for FC3s currently, and GSM for mastercraft)

Valuable items unique to desynthing: Fieldcraft Demimateria III (FC3), Battlecraft Demimateria III (BC3), Mastercraft Demimateria (MCD), Demimog Demimateria, Demimateria of the Vortex, Demimateria of the Inferno, Demimateria of Crags, Rare Swimwear {Sea Breeze top/bottom, South Seas top, Blue/Red Maro, Ti Leaf Lei, Coronal Summer Halter, Red Pareo}, Waterproof Cotton [from certain fish and Rare Swimwear], rare hats {Gold/Oschon Roselle Capeline}, Assassin Fry minion

Unique capabilities of various desynth classes:

• LTW: Cheapest FC3s (Bridesmaid's Sandals, 6k each from vendor), Allagan Leather (from T1-T5 Allagan equipment, but can also be obtained by just doing T1-T5, so it's hardly unique), cheap Hard Hippogryph Leather (also from the sandals), relatively easy BC3s (from i70+ dungeon loot)
• WVR: Second cheapest FC3s (Bridesmaid's pants, 12k each from vendor), Allagan Silk (from T1-T5 Allagan equipment, but can also be obtained by just doing T1-T5, so it's hardly unique), cheap Vanya Silk (also from the pants), relatively easy BC3s (from i70+ dungeon loot)
• ARM: Allagan Wootz Ore (from T1-T5 Allagan equipment, but can also be obtained by just doing T1-T5, so it's hardly unique), second cheapest MCDs (from Artisan's Frypans), relatively easy BC3s (from i70+ dungeon loot); I believe T1-T5 and/or Myth equipment for ARM desynth can also desynth to Platinum Ingots and/or Nuggets, but I could be wrong
• CRP: Ifrit, Garuda, Mog demimateria from Bard equips
• BSM: Ifrit, Garuda, Mog demimateria from many classes
• GSM: Ifrit, Garuda demimateria from a few classes, cheapest MCDs (from Artisan's Spectacles), cheap-ish FC3s (from the i70 Garlean material glasses), cheap Rose Gold Ingots (from dungeon drops), relatively easy BC3s (from i70+ dungeon loot)
• ALC: Titan demimateria from all classes (no one else can get this), Ifrit, Garuda, Mog demimateria from many classes
• CUL: Rare swimwear, hats, Waterproof Cotton, and the Assassin Fry minion from Big Fish; cannot get demimateria at all, unless someone discovers that Rich Tomato Relish can desynth into MCDs, but that's unlikely at this point

(EDIT: To add to my point, the only truly unique items from specific desynth classes are the Titan demimateria (ALC only) and the rare swimwear/hats (CUL only). Everything else can be obtained from multiple desynth classes. LTW, WVR, and ARM are the only classes that can desynth Allagan materials, but those are also dungeon drops, so they're not unique. I added a list of items unique to desynthing above.)


I'm LTW for FC3s, Allagan Leather, BC3s, and Hard Hippo Leather; GSM for MCDs, BC3s, FC3s, and Rose Gold Ingots; I'm BSM for non-Titan primal demis. My wife is WVR for Vanya Silk, Allagan Silk, FC3s, and BC3s; CUL for swimwear. We share stuff. I fish, she desynths them. We both get FC3s, I make her stuff with them. She will be supplying me with Allagan Silk so I can craft 4* stuff for guildies when I get there. Theoretically, I'd farm MCDs for her, but I've broken 35+ Artisan Spectacles and I've only gotten a single MCD. It's very irritating.

In retrospect, I only really regret BSM, because I don't really farm primals as much as I should. I have no idea what I'd replace BSM with, but GSM and LTW were solid choice so far. If you do a lot of First Coil farming, you might want to take up whatever can desynth the Allagan equipment for your current main class.

And for whomever asked about WVR post 87: you CAN make cashmere hats of casting like I said in the OP, but I'd actually just farm T1-T5 as a class that can get a fair amount of WVR items from it, or Expert Roulette as any class for the Antique items, which you can trade in for WVR-desynthable stuff.

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

from reddit

http://i.imgur.com/jYHn3Px.png

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Here's an interesting question: Can you get HQ sealant that way? And, is it worth it?

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but if you're doing mass desynths, Bacon Broth is a new 4 star food that increases your desynth success rate.

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Hmm. Bacon Broth appears to only raise desynth chance by 1% for NQ, 2% for HQ, and it's a four star craft that requires an item that costs 30 soldiery, and an item that costs 8 oaknots. Also, the starting quality is likely low because the two highest ilvl items (those two) are NQ only. However, you do get 3 broth per synth. An interesting idea, but too expensive to really use regularly, just like the ALC desynth reset books. Those books also cost 8 oaknots and either 30 sold or 270 sold (hard to tell - xivdb has issues with quantities), though they don't have to be HQed.

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Originally Posted by Nyalia

Hmm. Bacon Broth appears to only raise desynth chance by 1% for NQ, 2% for HQ

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Um, are you sure? My 70% went up to 72.5% with NQ.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Um, are you sure? My 70% went up to 72.5% with NQ.

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I'm not sure, I'm just reading what it says on the Lodestone. NQ: Careful Synthesis: 1%; HQ: Careful Synthesis 2%.

That's not %, that's SE's arbitrary stat that tells us pretty much nothing, just like reduced durability loss. As far as I can tell, NQ is +2.5% so HQ is probably +5%.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

That's not %, that's SE's arbitrary stat that tells us pretty much nothing, just like reduced durability loss. As far as I can tell, NQ is +2.5% so HQ is probably +5%.

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I thought it "gave" you 1 point of desynth skill in every class. So desynthing an item at say 70 skill with food and 71 skill with no food would give you the same % chance.

The +1 or +2 means literally after eating that food you level up 1 or 2 desynthesis levels while the buff is on.

It's not +1 level, it's +2.5% success rate. If it was +1 level, it would be giving +1.5% success rate at higher levels.

[Cleared. Old info.]