SE, Please fix this FC exploit

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Originally Posted by Lumia

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This is what I would like to see changed/added:
Show the "who" invites/promotes/demotes in the chat log and also record it in the activity log.
Add a notification setting for leadership positions to see when items are removed/deposited into the Free Company chest (on/off feature) - something similar to something selling on the market wards, except it would say "Name withdraws .... from the Free Company Chest"

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there is a notification in activity log last i checked if you go to look though it would get buried if you got a big fc and people are doing stuff I.E gardening buying fc actions etc...i highly doubt SE will add a notice to say who took what from fc other then whats already provided...though i feel sorry for your fc i've seen it happen before and understand that it would anger anyone

I'm on Balmung as well, and would love if you could share the name, but I know that is against the rules (which is idiotic). I'll just warn my FC.

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Originally Posted by Canadane

What would be nice to see is if the rank hierarchy would be taken into account for rank promotion/demotion and you cannot exceed past your rank, or perhaps one below. But it's been a couple years now including an expansion and nothings come of it, so I doubt we'll see anything soon.

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This. Period. Why even place a hierarchy, then allow people to promote above their rank in said structure?

It was a complete oversight. It should have been fixed long ago. It has nothing to do with inactive leaders being swapped, that's cool, whatever. However, you should never be able to PUSH yourself into another rank above you. Again, as mentioned.. its been ages.

OP has 341 Likes and counting, to no avail? *sadface

Very sad this hasn't got an official response.

I agree, it is pointless making a hierarchy that allows people to promote above their own rank. That really needs to be changed. There have been far too many stories like this.
I'd like to see a system like they have in WoW, where people are only able to promote to the rank below theirs, and only the FC leader can change permissions.
The system here is too easy to exploit.

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Originally Posted by Solarra

Very sad this hasn't got an official response.

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There was an official response: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...33#post1910133

Not a wholly decent nor favorable response, but a response still.

This is why my FC has no Gil Withdrawal access, and the only rank available to withdraw funds is mine.

If people need money, they can ask me for it.

If a Free Company Leader could lock ranks so no one can be promoted to them, it would fix this because the FC leader can lock the ranks that have bank access or access to the high value company chest page, and it won't matter whether or not you can promote above your rank since the ranks with the access are locked.

SE's rank system is free form, the numerical order doesn't really mean much since you can assign rights to any rank. However if your FC has a master, and two officer ranks, and several member ranks. It would be good to be able to lock down the officer ranks since the only person that should be promoting people to those is the company master. Also, don't allow any rank but company master to define the hierarchy or access rights (that's something that the company master themself can do).

Until it's fixed (which doesn't appear to be happening :() the best safe solution is probably to keep the ability to promote and demote a leader-only permission. If an officer wants to promote someone, they instead send a message to the leader nominating that person for promotion. It might be awkward for some groups (particularly if they have a leader who's only occasionally active and slow to respond to messages), but it's better than drastically cutting back all other permissions on the assumption they could go to anyone who exploits this flaw.

Wait, is this still a problem?! This SERIOUSLY should have been fixed 1.5-2 years ago when it first came up, there is no reason for someone to be able to promote above their own rank. That's absolutely stupid design on SE's part.