CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

Then quit. No one cares.

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Originally Posted by EmSix

Unless you want to do Twintania with them.

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I still would say I got around 4 jobs I could take to twintania that have enough 90s from greed rolls. Still being able to do everything in the game minus 1 fight is still pretty good.

The real root of the problem is myth armors, or rather, the way myth tomes are obtained. It discourages a large number of people from doing endgame content. Why bother banging ur head against an rng wall when u can gear up your entire character in highest tier gear through farming midgame content? Right now with myth items, your character's items progress even though you don't do any progressive content. If you remove myth items, then as many claim, DL is sufficient for the entire game save 1 fight. Then, players who "don't see a problem with current lockouts" will understand progression.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

I'm not new to MMOs. But while our gear becomes worthless every few months (Can't say the same for FFXI) we'll be enjoying the new content, While everyone is still playing catch up.

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and with that you mean you will whine there's nothing to do but gear grinding, while 'everyone' is actually enjoying whatever else besides gear grind the game has to offer.

surely you win this ... (insert rolleyes smiley here)

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Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

5 of 5 tank queue Cape Westwinds were instant for me. 1 of 1 DD queues... 28 minutes.

Average WP queue time as DD is around 30 minutes for me, and it's about 10-20 minutes more for AK. I have yet to have a non-instant queue time queuing for either alone as tank, though it may take a couple minutes with dps along for the quick queue. That seems to be pretty standard for the other tanks I've spoken to...

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Unless I Queue up with my wife, Tank queues for me is like 1-2secs even on Monday.

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Originally Posted by amnie

and with that you mean you will whine there's nothing to do but gear grinding, while 'everyone' is actually enjoying whatever else besides gear grind the game has to offer.

surely you win this ... (insert rolleyes smiley here)

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I happen to like Gear Grinding, It increases my chances of getting into End Game content and succeeding. I do other stuff in game. But I can only Fate Grind so much, I find it boring and sometimes I fall asleep.... At least in FFXI I could occupy my time by camping NMs or helping others. But in FFXIV seems everyone only needs help on titan HM, And that as you all know sucks and I don't like doing it.

Come again!

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Originally Posted by Tenku

The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?

This game is heading in a direction that many of us feared it might... full of limitations.

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While I agree with what you're saying to an extent, Crystal Tower isn't the only content being added in 2.1. Its not like you wont have new dungeons and extreme mode primals to collect items and achievements from.

this game has content but the way the gear was done makes most of it. they did vertical progression and did it bad. leads to lack on viable content

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Originally Posted by Invz

While I agree with what you're saying to an extent, Crystal Tower isn't the only content being added in 2.1. Its not like you wont have new dungeons and extreme mode primals to collect items and achievements from.

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The new dungeons are i60 = worthless.
The new primals also have a weekly lockout = same problem as CT.

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Originally Posted by amnie

and with that you mean you will whine there's nothing to do but gear grinding, while 'everyone' is actually enjoying whatever else besides gear grind the game has to offer.

surely you win this ... (insert rolleyes smiley here)

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To say EVERYONE is enjoying the game is speculation. Lets have an official poll on this matter and I think you will find that EVERYONE isnt enjoying the game. The game is dull and boring as in its the same crap everyday regardless of whats being released in patch 2.1 it will end up being the same til 2.2. This will possibly hinder the game's growth as those who find it boring and dull will tell their friends and word of mouth is very powerful. Now of course those who think this game is the greatest thing to man will do the same but Im sure after those who try it will come to the same conclusion as all those who currently find this game dull and boring.