FFXIV Meme's

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

I wasn't debating with you specifically, but more debating the general arguments people make. Yours happen to fit those common arguments, so I responded with the same thing I would say to those same arguments.

It doesn't mean I think you're some crazed otaku that eats Pocky at their computer and sits and reads manga at the bookstore for hours tho xD Just wanted to drop some thought that might make you see another side to the debate. :x

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No, I'm still pretty sure you were missing my point entirely. I prefer dubs, except when I see that a sub is story-wise making more sense than the dub.

As far as the sub vs. dub debate, I'm surprised no one mentioned Black Lagoon

compare: (same episode, and about the closest I could find)

eng dub

jp sub

for me personally, I have no problem watching subbed, though I still lean towards dubbed as personal preference. That being said, I do find different takes on a character interesting. Case in point:

some are good, some are bad, and one is high octane nightmare fuel

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Originally Posted by Vilhem

It doesn't mean I think you're some crazed otaku that eats Pocky at their computer and sits and reads manga at the bookstore for hours tho xD

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I've totally done that before. And it was one step further! The manga was in Japanese! And I understood most of it! Though I suppose I cheated and referred to a kanji dictionary (on my phone no less!) when I couldn't deduce the meaning of a kanji through context.

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Weaboo

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Here's a conundrum for you. What if said person is actually half-Japanese and can understand the vast majority of day-to-day conversations, as well as some puns and jokes without subtitles. Still weaboo or...? õ.ó

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Originally Posted by Gramul

Should I have made it more obvious?
Allow me to spell it out for you: We don't owe Square anything and I am sick to death of people thinking we have to just sit back and take anything they give us. Just because some people aren't satisfied does not mean they are brats and nothing about the entire run of XIV could make anyone look spoiled.

I don't think anyone has stepped out of line.

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Indeed.

However, that does not mean that everyone who isn't satisfied is not a brat. Generalizing either way is wrong. Similar to trolling. While having a differing opinion itself is not trolling, purposefully taking on an opposing opinion to promote a flame war is. Not all with different opinions are trolls, but not all with different opinions are not trolls.

(Forgive the overabundance of double and triple negatives.)

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Indeed.

However, that does not mean that everyone who isn't satisfied is not a brat. Generalizing either way is wrong. Similar to trolling. While having a differing opinion itself is not trolling, purposefully taking on an opposing opinion to promote a flame war is. Not all with different opinions are trolls, but not all with different opinions are not trolls.

(Forgive the overabundance of double and triple negatives.)

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touché
/10char

Enough with the anime talk. Back to memes are funny stuff that might be able to grow up to become a meme.

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Originally Posted by Alerith

Indeed.

However, that does not mean that everyone who isn't satisfied is not a brat. Generalizing either way is wrong. Similar to trolling. While having a differing opinion itself is not trolling, purposefully taking on an opposing opinion to promote a flame war is. Not all with different opinions are trolls, but not all with different opinions are not trolls.

(Forgive the overabundance of double and triple negatives.)

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Then who justifies if the opinion is or isn't genuine. A troll is someone using intentional logical fallacies to get a rise out of people. Not a discerning opinion you personally feel is out to get your goat. And even then we don't need to defend our own opinions with "oh you're just-"nonsense.

Sqare's a big enough company to handle a few dissatisfied opinions and its clear they are willing to listen. But if you don't agree, say so with some grace instead of being just as ready to fan the flames as you suspect they are trying to cause. If they are here to cause chaos, you don't want to hand it to them on a silver platter.

Give the benefit of a doubt. Express your disagreement in a rational respectable manor as it's a win win. If they're here to cause trouble, they failed against your level headed response and if the opinion is genuine, you've instigated a decent conversation with the opportunity to expand your viewpoint against another.