Viera Changes

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

I want everyone to be happier with their characters. Yesterday I mentioned I hoped they had given us access to the characters earlier to have more time to iterate. If they really made their characters easier to work on (part of why they wanted to do the update) I can only hope they can implement feedback-based changes sooner for everyone.

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Keeping my fingers crossed that 2 months is enough time to implement a reasonable amount of changes. I did not expect the raid tier of this expac to be the character creator (savage).

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Originally Posted by Kogekigami

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...4f3b053ea0967&

Why has my viera been downgraded so much?

I had to change face completely to try and fix him which meant loosing his beauty mark which is sad. Can we not get some of the facial features like colour lashes, beauty marks and scars made universal across the faces if we are gonna have to make drastic changes to our characters like this?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...94b93ba79b687& Best I could do to fix him...

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holy crap that looks like PS4 vs Switch version, buns look really flat in colour too

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Originally Posted by Rugno

Keeping my fingers crossed that 2 months is enough time to implement a reasonable amount of changes. I did not expect the raid tier of this expac to be the character creator (savage).

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Well... if memory serves, one reason for the update was to streamline the way the models were constructed within the engine to expedite stuff like Hroth/Viera hairstyles and our hats. I'm hoping that if this is true, that they can also iterate quickly on the characters based on feedback so the update pleases as many people as possible.

https://i.imgur.com/PD9QYCt.png

It feels dumb to be this upset over an update to a video game but man, I'm gutted. That's a completely different character.


- Eyebrows have pretty much been removed

- Eyes are very uncanny with inhumanly white sclera and a totally different iris color/pupil shape

- Skin is a different color, the cool undertone is completely gone

- Lips are overly defined and a different shape/color, he looks actively upset for some reason

- Makeup is toned way way down

- Hair has smooth textures with super rough edges and is a completely different color (black hair seems to be that gross washed out gray across the board though)


I'll be disappointed but not surprised if they force this update on us pretty much unchanged from its current state. It's so bad.

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Originally Posted by moenbrydas

endwalker benchmark:
https://i.imgur.com/GUuv8xK.png

dawntrail benchmark:
https://i.imgur.com/bEvQLpH.png

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showed my boyfriend these and he thought the ew picture was the updated textures... my manbun is also face 4 and the more I look at the benchmark the more the new eyes and lips feel like such a downgrade.

Square, please.

https://i.imgur.com/FEm6XzF.png

This is a race-specific and gender-specific hairstyle. Both this version and the swept-back fringe version have a gap between the hair and the side of the face, no matter which face style is chosen. Why?

After a bit I'm starting to get used to it? I got a lil lucky with the upgrade.
He still looks a bit flat/waxy/dead inside though and the lighting probably isn't helping with that, and that's after going through the settings to try and make it look better. My main problem is the ears, please fix the lightbulb ears :(
(also sorry if this post is wrong, first time posting I just want to throw my thoughts at SE)
https://imgur.com/a/MOZvB2U

Did they really use subsurface scattering for bunny ears?? LOL

The glowing ears seem to be a problem with the half-folded 'lop' ears. specifically; I haven't seen anyone with the upright ear styles making similar complaints. It feels probable this is one of the multiple texture problems present in the benchmark. (ie. One of the hairstyles that previously had black ear tips for male Mi'qote now shows the markings so faded, they're almost invisible. Lalafel, Roegadyn and Viera nose markings are also inconsistently applied with a similar-seeming issue.)

I usually just observe the forums but this graphical update pushed me to actually create a forum account to also voice my concern. I feel like this graphical update ripped all of the personality out of the viera and an *almost all* downgrade.

I was most concerned about the nose when the photos were first released. The lighting and the shadows on the nose just don't feel like they are working in harmony with each other and it just looks... bad? I also absolutely hate the eyes, I feel like there is something off about them. It is almost as if the graphic update erased the detail in the original eyes. The new face in general is just so off-putting in comparison to what it was before. I have seen some vieras look good with the change, but the majority look *very* different in the benchmark and not different in a good way.

I'm not here to complain, I just simply want to voice my concerns after noticing that so many others feel the same way. Even a small change to bring the personality back to the way that vieras looked before the benchmark would be amazing!