We Need to Start Expecting Mid-Level Sprouts to Play Better

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Originally Posted by Wolwosh

I remember tanking Sastasha in 2013.
1st dungeon Tanking and even said so and I was bad..
My group was so mean to me, so I learned to get good real fast xD
I'm not even looking at how people play anymore..
If I do I would be annoyed constantly, like why is that WHM Glaring when the Tank pulled 10 mobs etc

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It helps to turn off party battle effects so you can just focus on yourself and enemies.

Don't turn them off all the way though. You need to see those healer circles and doton. :p

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I wish this game was able to more regularly enforce skill checks in the way of Ivalice-level difficulty on the playerbase. The things that I still regularly happening at max level doesn't fill me with confidence for the depth of normal gameplay moving forward. Just because someone isn't stepping into EX or Savage doesn't mean they want minimal difficulty.

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Thats one gripe I have with the game. Regular content is mouth drool easy, and then you Savage or even Extreme where you can't reasonably expect to clear with randoms. The game needs some dungeons that require more skill than normal, but not such high skill that duty roulette can't do it. Maybe it's too late now, but we need content that encourages at least somewhat better play. With normal content the way it is, and being able to afk clear there is no reason or incentive to get any better if you never plan on going in to savage.

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Originally Posted by Stanazolol

Thats one gripe I have with the game. Regular content is mouth drool easy, and then you Savage or even Extreme where you can't reasonably expect to clear with randoms. The game needs some dungeons that require more skill than normal, but not such high skill that duty roulette can't do it. Maybe it's too late now, but we need content that encourages at least somewhat better play. With normal content the way it is, and being able to afk clear there is no reason or incentive to get any better if you never plan on going in to savage.

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Well... Hopefully Criterion/Variant Dungeons will fill that gap, everything sounds great but most things that just sound great never pulls through.

So heres to hoping.

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Originally Posted by OM3GA-Z3RO

Well... Hopefully Criterion/Variant Dungeons will fill that gap, everything sounds great but most things that just sound great never pulls through.

So heres to hoping.

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To me variant/criterion dungeons seem like they are going to have the same problem, variant will just be more repeatable content for very casual play when you are sick of the expert roulette and then criterion will fall between extreme and savage

We really need more BA esque content because that’s where the difficulty seems to work best

I have zero expectations of everyone. My life is much more peaceful that way. If you don't like the people you find in duty finder then form your own group with people that meet your desires. Don't expect anything. Nobody is in a position to judge others.

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I have zero expectations of everyone. My life is much more peaceful that way. If you don't like the people you find in duty finder then form your own group with people that meet your desires. Don't expect anything. Nobody is in a position to judge others.

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How about if you can’t meet the most basic expectations of the way the game is designed to be played you okay with trusts rather than drag down three unwitting other players

It shouldn’t be up to competent players to self sort themselves into competent parties when this game can be played at an adequate level by a 5 year old

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Originally Posted by Reap00

I have zero expectations of everyone. My life is much more peaceful that way. If you don't like the people you find in duty finder then form your own group with people that meet your desires. Don't expect anything. Nobody is in a position to judge others.

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So it is fine for you that other Players waste your time cause they are to lazy to check Boss Mechanics or even their own Skills and what they do? I was 5 Minutes ago in Alexander - The Heart of the Creator as Healer, the second Healer Level 90, has not even known how to Rezz or what to do in that Level 60 Raid, in the End we wiped 3 times before I left.

I am every single Day in Raids, Trials, Alliance and Frontline and I see a lot Leechers, who do nothing and get Rewarded for that. God forbid if you dare to say please kick Player XYZ cause he is afk or does nothing. Then you get a Shitstorm of the Year.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

I wish this game was able to more regularly enforce skill checks in the way of Ivalice-level difficulty on the playerbase. The things that I still regularly happening at max level doesn't fill me with confidence for the depth of normal gameplay moving forward. Just because someone isn't stepping into EX or Savage doesn't mean they want minimal difficulty.

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I think you misunderstand why those raids were "hard".

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Originally Posted by Aneshda

So it is fine for you that other Players waste your time cause they are to lazy to check Boss Mechanics or even their own Skills and what they do? I was 5 Minutes ago in Alexander - The Heart of the Creator as Healer, the second Healer Level 90, has not even known how to Rezz or what to do in that Level 60 Raid, in the End we wiped 3 times before I left.

I am every single Day in Raids, Trials, Alliance and Frontline and I see a lot Leechers, who do nothing and get Rewarded for that. God forbid if you dare to say please kick Player XYZ cause he is afk or does nothing. Then you get a Shitstorm of the Year.

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That's why you don't say anything, you just start the vote kick. A bad healer is VERY noticeable, by everybody.