The Men FFXIV Needs

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Frankly, a lot of male roe players treat their race as a meme race, from what I've seen. More players I've seen who want a more serious, masculine, character will play highlander or au ra instead, and if they don't like those options: midlander. I'd say the majority of the time I see a male roe, they are in some joke outfit, like with bright metallic dyes, a moogle head, paws, etc. With hrothgar, I see a bit less of that, but I do see a lot of.. other outfits, that I probably shouldn't go into too much detail on the forums.

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I have a friend who treats their own roe the same way. Silly outfits and all. It's definitely a thing. Even they have told me that they view male oe as a "joke" race. Nothing wrong with that, mind you, but there's definitely a precedent. Their roe also makes one heck of a Santa Claus, I won't lie. They seem to enjoy playing the race and that's what matters. It also provides some entertainment for others.

I like dressing up my male Roe whenever I can. Don't have enough cash on him yet to where I can afford more glamour prisms. Also male Roe look the best in plated armor. Currently, I have mine running around in typical undyed Ishgardian-esc chainmail with heavy armor gloves and boots on; no helmet. My guy looks great!

As for my Hrothgar, I've given him a scholarly look as a Monk. I bought Papalymo's outfit from the cash shop and put it on my Hroth, plus your average dyable monocle you can find on the black market board, the Hraesvlgr gloves and the exclusive Hrothgar venturer boots. I say he looks rather dapper. Oh! Plus he uses the same type of weapons Yda used back in ARR. :D

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

Frankly, a lot of male roe players treat their race as a meme race, from what I've seen. More players I've seen who want a more serious, masculine, character will play highlander or au ra instead, and if they don't like those options: midlander. I'd say the majority of the time I see a male roe, they are in some joke outfit, like with bright metallic dyes, a moogle head, paws, etc. With hrothgar, I see a bit less of that, but I do see a lot of.. other outfits, that I probably shouldn't go into too much detail on the forums.

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I dont want to detract from the fun and interests of people, but I'm glad I'm one of the minor few whom play a roe male and take their character seriously. That means no meme or overly goofy glams for their jobs. We're a rare breed.

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Originally Posted by Midareyukki

Not as much :p

Especially not in-game. Hrothgar NPCs are usually portrayed as either really cute, stern or valorous. Roegadyn are memed way too often, even now. Proof? Try our emotes, you'll see.

Try saying that when we have something like Mr. Face as a Hrothgar.

also, why do you think we keep asking Square to remove the hunchback, believe me, not even we like looking like we're constipated all the time...

:D which is something fans have ALSO fixed illegally!

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btw you do realize actual mods still can read these posts right? Not saying people will be snitching but I would be cautious about personally admitting use of 3rd party addons.

To be fair, condoning mods doesn't necessarily mean using them. Heck, just google 'male Roegadyn' (under your own risk) and most results are modded, or links to the mods themselves. If anything, it gets to show how "meh" the race feels by default that a sizable amount of its players have to resort risking a ban to "fix" their characters.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

To be fair, condoning mods doesn't necessarily mean using them. Heck, just google 'male Roegadyn' (under your own risk) and most results are modded, or links to the mods themselves. If anything, it gets to show how "meh" the race feels by default that a sizable amount of its players have to resort risking a ban to "fix" their characters.

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Meh, I dont personally find default roes an issue that needed to be "fixed". It can certainly be improved just like with all other races but not in the means that they arent appealing.

Although this is me having a WoL replica of Branden whom imo is prolly the most good looking roe npc this game has so I suppose there's some merit to it lol.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

btw you do realize actual mods still can read these posts right? Not saying people will be snitching but I would be cautious about personally admitting use of 3rd party addons.

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I never said that I used third party tools. Nor told people to. But I know people will jump that gun harder than a Dragoon at a target. I'll just say this:

It's no lie that there are stuff out there that have fixed those things. We say it all the time so that Square is aware of what's going on: that a lot of people resort to modding specifically because they themselves don't do anything to solve the issues races have but that fans keep pointing out. The more and longer they let stuff pass, the more those are provided. I know it's dangerous to admit their existence at all... but if I get shot it's because the mods tend to shoot first and ask questions never. Regardless, at this point Square really needs to pay attention.

No one's asking or telling you to mod. Just that this is a thing that fans have addressed themselves, and Square really should be the one doing it, not them.

If not for the hunchback which has been claimed by several people here to be among the major detriments to playing Hrothgar, then for other stuff like hairstyles and headgear. If there's anything to learn from 3rd party tools and mods, which Square implied they were looking into to offer the same in a legal way into the game, then this is one such case.

But we'll see. I know a lot of petty people lurk the forums, they make up over half the threads anyway. If you don't hear from me for a few weeks, you'll know what happened :p someone didn't like me calling Square out on where they're letting things slip, and I got shot for it.

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Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Meh, I dont personally find default roes an issue that needed to be "fixed". It can certainly be improved just like with all other races but not in the means that they arent appealing.

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The issue is that most of those things aren't fixes, nor even necessary. They're aesthetic changes.
I'd call "Fixes" the stuff that straighten Hrothgar spines, the stuff that fix their hairstyles or headgear. Roegadyn don't need any immediate fix like that, so all the stuff you find are minimal and, as said before, unnecessary.

Still :P I'll edit it so it's less egregious.

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Originally Posted by Allegor

To be fair, condoning mods doesn't necessarily mean using them. Heck, just google 'male Roegadyn' (under your own risk) and most results are modded, or links to the mods themselves. If anything, it gets to show how "meh" the race feels by default that a sizable amount of its players have to resort risking a ban to "fix" their characters.

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Except I don't condone their use. I only did so once, out of sheer frustration. But it's a dangerous slippery slope, and for all intents and purposes, Square does not want to see them used. But there is no denying. Among all the garbage and the crap there are things that fans use out of accessiblity and fairness, things that Square has not met expectations on. Things Square lied to us about, only for those fans then disproving them on stream.

Im not afraid to say, I dont mind the Hunch.
I think its a normal thing for them and Beastmen and Brutelike characters. Beastmen tend to be Brutes and Top heavy.

But thats not to say I wouldnt mind an ability or a switch to stand up straight either.

I don't play male characters because they.. well.. Don't look like men (With the exception of Manra, but they are too tall).

I would 100% play a Hyur male if they had the facial options of a certain Pandaemonium character.

Where are all my Gandalf grandpa black mages at?

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Im not afraid to say, I dont mind the Hunch.
I think its a normal thing for them and Beastmen and Brutelike characters. Beastmen tend to be Brutes and Top heavy.

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Although I dislike the hunch, sometimes I just get used to it after a while.
Though, I recently had anniversary ceremony.
Seeing one Hroth with a straight back and another doesn't in the cutscene just grinds my teeth.
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