Asmongold on NSFW mods

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08-30-2021, 05:48 AM
Araxes

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Hopefully something is done about the problem. I used to really enjoy role-play and yet ended up quitting as a consequence of repeated unwanted advances on both an IC and OOC front. (IC = In Character, OOC = Out Of Character).

Worse yet, more often than not nobody involved bothered to even ask my age at the time. Which should set off all sorts of red flags.

A lot of people have become pretty brazen about it, too. I can't look through the FFXIV hashtag on Twitter without seeing it and a number of role-players on Balmung and Mateus have explicit links in their character's search info.

The real Problem for me is that most people just think: "he wants to E-RP" when you mention RP in any form or shape. It is the same thing with Ultimates. Every time someone speaks of Ultimates, many people just ask themselves of how much they payed for the carry since so many pay for the Title/Weapon.
08-30-2021, 05:51 AM
Vahlnir

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's quite fascinating, really. The FFXIV community has a major issue with a segment of its population being more upset by the idea of ERP and grooming being called out than the unfortunate fact that such abhorrent elements are deeply embedded within the FFXIV role-playing community.

It's also interesting for me to observe that it's common for individuals to show up and claim that they don't really care about the issue and/or have no stake or apparent investment but then they expend a considerable amount of effort pointing fingers, deflecting and gaslighting about how it supposedly isn't a big deal.

Yeah, pretty much...I'd still be willing to say that the community as a whole is usually decent, but it's awfully hard when I see members of said community come out from the woodwork to defend this and make themselves look like absolute creeps.
08-30-2021, 06:04 AM
Dogempire

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Originally Posted by lezard21

If what NSFW modders were doing was not illegal then why are they all suddenly locking their twitters?

Because of idiots blowing the whistle and bringing attention to NSFW modders just to go on some stream nobody cares about.

Nobody cares about people using ACT aside from hardcore casuals, nobody cares about people using gshade because the game looks like crap without it, and people don't really care about people using CMTool since it makes gpose have infinite possibilities for screenshot ideas.
08-30-2021, 06:13 AM
Awha

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Shockingly enough, people who can't maintain IRL relationships and have to turn to virtual ERP for gratification tend to have, on average, worse social skills than the general population.

Looking well foreword to the next crackdown that comes when Asmon's video reaches SE. R.I.P C(gr)oomers

Being antisocial is does not make it fair to generalize. Please can we stop trying to lump the bad apples within everyone that falls under certain umbrella. Sure many to fall under the antisocial oe socially awkward crowd but it is damaging to use such language that marks them under the same roof so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

What are you even going on about? How old are you exactly?

Do you understand the concept morality and laws? It's not about what I personally see. Maybe you should listen to someone that is educated in this area, since you clearly don't have any idea.

Morality is subjective and laws differing from place to place and level of enforcement also differs.

Also in terms of philosophical laws and rules for some are just suggestive principles to live by one is free to make a choice to live by them or not.
08-30-2021, 06:32 AM
Zsolen

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Originally Posted by Awha

Morality is subjective and laws differing from place to place and level of enforcement also differs.

Also in terms of philosophical laws and rules for some are just suggestive principles to live by one is free to make a choice to live by them or not.

The morality of pedophilia is subjective to you? Good to know you feel that way. It's one of the very few agreed upon things by an overwhelming majority of people on the planet. That's why there are laws across many countries. Like murder and rape, it's not cool. Gotta love these people that think something like that is subjective. We aren't talking about a traffic law, smoking pot, owning a gun, or gay marriage.

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Originally Posted by Araxes

The real Problem for me is that most people just think: "he wants to E-RP" when you mention RP in any form or shape. It is the same thing with Ultimates. Every time someone speaks of Ultimates, many people just ask themselves of how much they payed for the carry since so many pay for the Title/Weapon.

Same goes for ranked feast. Some people assume it's a bought or win traded top 100.
08-30-2021, 06:38 AM
van_arn

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Originally Posted by Eraanthe

Yea, this is very unfortunate :x but actions have consequences. It was VERY stupid to shine a huge spot light on the erp/nsfw community- maybe they though they were doing the community a service but as we can see from this thread, people are way too soft.

The hate they receive is necessary; as someone who enjoys general nsfw content of the games I play, the last thing I want is for normies and haters to stifle creativity.

I do not like this take at all. "Actions have consequences" doesn't justify harassing the woman for showing up to an interview, and I hope she puts in a ticket for every issue that comes from this.

I'm not fond of the ERP "community" of the game at all, but none of those players deserve to be harassed by other players -- even if I'm perfectly fine with accounts going poof if they get too bold in advertising venues.
08-30-2021, 06:47 AM
Awha

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Originally Posted by Zsolen

The morality of pedophilia is subjective to you? Good to know you feel that way. It's one of the very few agreed upon things by an overwhelming majority of people on the planet. That's why there are laws across many countries. Like murder and rape, it's not cool. Gotta love these people that think something like that is subjective. We aren't talking about a traffic law, smoking pot, owning a gun, or gay marriage.

Same goes for ranked feast. Some people assume it's a bought or win traded top 100.

Fact remains morality is subjective it differs from person to person culture to culture.

Also laws are just suggestions we have the choice to abide by them or not. Just a matter of if a person is willing to live with the consequences.

Not sure what I said was wrong are you going to tell me that you really think it is a universal truth or an objective truth?

Maybe you do not understand the concept of morals or laws.
08-30-2021, 06:48 AM
Dogempire

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Shockingly enough, people who can't maintain IRL relationships and have to turn to virtual ERP for gratification tend to have, on average, worse social skills than the general population.

Looking well foreword to the next crackdown that comes when Asmon's video reaches SE. R.I.P C(gr)oomers

I mean, I know someone who ERP's because in their country it's illegal to be gay, so online interactions are basically the only place he can get that sort of action without risking being thrown in jail.

Obviously that's not the majority of people, but you can't judge the entirety of a community because of a few creeps, because those creeps exist on any sort of game where you can communicate with strangers
08-30-2021, 07:28 AM
Estariel

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Originally Posted by Awha

Fact remains morality is subjective it differs from person to person culture to culture.

Also laws are just suggestions we have the choice to abide by them or not. Just a matter of if a person is willing to live with the consequences.

Not sure what I said was wrong are you going to tell me that you really think it is a universal truth or an objective truth?

Maybe you do not understand the concept of morals or laws.

Morality stops to be subjective whenever someone is dragged into something they dont´t like.

2 grown -ups want to pee on each other. Do your thing, just don´t pee on me.

And nowhere in the world is a child, who wants to be abused in any way. That there even is a dicussion about it, makes me want to vomit more than i ever could eat...
08-30-2021, 07:39 AM
Awha

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Originally Posted by Estariel

Morality stops to be subjective whenever someone is dragged into something they dont´t like.

2 grown -ups want to pee on each other. Do your thing, just don´t pee on me.

And nowhere in the world is a child, who wants to be abused in any way. That there even is a dicussion about it, makes me want to vomit more than i ever could eat...

Sorry but your first point is not an objective truth. Under one person's moral framework you may not be granted moral agency thus what another person feels is irrelevant.

As for the second point you cannot prove that statement to be an universal truth so where exactly is what I am saying wrong? Even if you could still harkens back to the first point that under one person's system children may not be granted moral agency so thus their feelings are irrelevant.

What I am saying hiding behind rules laws and morals is moot cause if a person wants to do harm they will no subjective set of principles will stop it.

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