I think it might've been in Nozomikei's thread, but I can't quite remember. Anyways, nice recount though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ymal
See, I'd really love to know how the heck it's hard to make gear go from female > male. I really don't see how it'd be more work, Lalafell have the same bodies, and Roegadyn women already have pretty masculine bodies sans the chest, it seems just as much work to modify it for those two as it would be for men in general. Alternatively, I don't get why SE just doesn't start every set on men then works to the women version of it.
I mean, I dunno, I don't think those sets change too much on men or women, ideally I'd hope the sets to just be unisex, I kinda like the goofy more covering look to the taffeta on men, especially considering the sever lack of shorts in this game (Like the WHM bottoms turning from like weird shorts to a super mini skirt on girls >_> )
Just wish making the girl's version of the set would get the same treatment >_> I would love it if those guys who want more skirts and fishnets and whatnot got the same treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by myahele
More gender locked clothing
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07-15-2015, 09:21 AMSamcaesar
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07-15-2015, 11:16 AMNozomiKeiI love that the answer to this is that SE literally designed that skimpy skirt/thong combo exclusively for the male half of a race. No question about who it was intended for. XD Thank you for that gift SE.Quote:
Originally Posted by AlphaSonic
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07-15-2015, 11:18 AMMisterLucieWell, with a body like this... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NozomiKei
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07-15-2015, 12:15 PMTerriniThat was me that posted that. And it was posted before 3.0 and Thavnairian was officially released, THUS it didn't have the Thavnairian sets listed, so with the Thavnairian sets, it's 17 pieces of gear. I've updated it now though :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Samcaesar
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07-15-2015, 12:16 PMSamcaesarOh okay! Thanks Terrini for relinking it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terrini
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07-15-2015, 12:43 PMJarinArenos
This claim that it's difficult to go from a female outfit to a male one... how does that make any sense? Women can wear "mens" clothing, but not the opposite, (because they're terrified of cross-dressing) so they have to redesign? Kill the concept of "cross-dressing" entirely and just let people wear what they like already. We don't need different designs. Hell, even WoW figured that out. Plenty of guys wearing the pretty dresses there.
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07-15-2015, 01:48 PMShaiI feel like basic anatomy should clue you in.Quote:
Originally Posted by JarinArenos
You make men clothes loose fitting. Add some nubs to count as boobs and boom its female.
You make female clothes to show off the girls and you try to slap that on a guy he's going to end up with moobs unless they overhaul the entire shape and design of the armor. I get this and it's an acceptable answer to the problem of "unisex everything!" However, it does not solve the problem of how or why females get 2x the glamour sets than men do. It's arbitrarily unfair that men are limited and women are not.
Edit because: char limit
There was a particular SPOILER earlier of a man IN THIS GAME wearing a dress and when that scene happened I personally thought "AWW UNFAIR" not because I'm gay or trans and want to cross dress (I am none of these things) but simply because he can wear it and be silly and I can't. I can't wedding-ring teleport to my wife while she's minding her own business to surprise her with the new spring dress I crafted for her and am now lovingly modeling. That's just comedy. There's no reason to polarize the population over this issue.
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07-15-2015, 01:51 PMJarinArenosSo they can expand the chest and add boob covers but can't shrink or remove them. I... don't think I follow your logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
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07-15-2015, 01:54 PMShaiMy logic is they are building gear to show off boobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by JarinArenos
They aren't building man-gear to do this.
It's probably easier to scale an armor to fit smaller shoulders than it is to physically remove giant gazongas from the entire design.
Now mind you, this argument does not apply to Lalafell at all as they have imaginary gazongas.
If gear fits Lala girls, it should fit Lala boys with absolutely no changes necessary.
Also worth noting that things like the Spring Dress don't really show off boobs at all, so it doesn't really apply to that either.
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07-15-2015, 01:58 PMJarinArenosThere's no significant difference in armor design between a female lala and a female highlander. If showing male collarbones offends someone, I'm sure they can raise the neckline a bit for guys. They have no problems adding a strip of cloth for open-shirt outfits on girls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai