SMN redesign in expansion?

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Originally Posted by Bigcat9715

ACN isn't going anywhere, because Sch still exist. If Sch didn't exist Smn would have gotten a real buff not a hotfix, and these didn't fix nothing if anything it made SMN mains angrier. What they should have done along time ago was remove Smn from ACN and turn it into job only class like how Dark knight is going to be, but they waited too long and now we got "buffs" like these. Smh, I can just hear all of the BLM mains just laughing while trying to keep a straight face.

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But the people in this thread aren't for a buff like the ones in "why is Summoner the worst DPS" thread. These people are for a complete overhaul. Maybe the people in the other thread were pushing for a redesign, but in this thread, the agenda is clear. As long as ACN is the jobs base, I'm happy. I'm not doing FCoB yet, so it's hard for me to sympathize with what everyone is going through. The closest thing I can work with is in Frontlines: Secure, where when Drones (monsters) pop, and I have to race against other DPS in trying to down them, then the inadequacies of the job become apparent. But that is the only instance where I'm competing with other jobs. And it's not enough to take away from the enjoyment I get from playing Summoner. One of the issues surrounding all this is that, in PvE, the jobs are somehow competing with one another. I just can't wrap my head around that. Maybe this is due to me being a casual that raids. I don't know. "Job competitiveness" just doesn't hold anything over me, but maybe it does for you all. I really don't know.

BTW, you don't have to be a BLM main for that. When I woke up this morning and read the patch notes, I thought, "this is it?" Then I thought of you all, then I laughed. THM is locked at 26.

Well consider this; SE wants the summoner, you the player, to be melee range to smack your book against the mob. Now, words hurt jokes aside, since we have to be in melee range, WTF SE!

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

THM is locked at 26

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I want you to go fully level your BLM to 50, so you can see the difference between SMN & BLM with your own eyes. No matter how much you put into playing Smn the job will never be in the same ball park as BLM hell Smn is in the parking lot of the Ball park. No matter if it's ST or AOE in a single rotation BLM can hit up to 5k+ that is an imbalance between the two. You know why that is? It's because Yoshi-P mains BLM, that's right the guy that runs FF14 mains a BLM just like the dude that runs Wow and the Mages in that game are OP as well. It's a classic case of favoritism. I was just like you only playing Smn thinking if I try my best I can be as good as any BLM, boy was I wrong. The only attacks that hit for 1K in the Smn arsenal is Fester (with all 3 DoTs up) and Enkindle(5 min CD). When BLM has Astral 3 ever cast of fire anything or flare hits for 1k+ they become as powerful as the end game bosses. I'm not trying to flame you I love being a Smn as much as you do, and if there wasn't anything wrong with the job I would be with you on this, but this is a big imbalance issue.

Here's my idea of a buddy-buddy Smn & pet idea: have it where Smn only need to put one Dot on the target and the Dot can stack on itself, and with each stack your pet hits harder on that target like doing 700+. But ideas like this can't happen as long as Sch is holding back Smn from truly being something great, and I wish SE would do something about.

Those are absurd ideas anyway. The difference between BLM and SMN DPS is around 40. Close that gap in one way or another and it's fine.

They said this is what they're doing right now because the expansion is so close and there's a lot of changes in it so they don't want to change something now to have it ruin what they have planned for the expansion. So, Summoner is being updated, Skill and Spell Speed are being changed as well. So who knows what they have planned and I'm excited to see what happens! :)

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Originally Posted by Brianmj

You don't like the current Summoner? Don't play it. Try out the Summoner in FF11 or wait for Final Fantasy 17 Online. Leave the current incarnation as is.

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Thank you. Yes, please leave Smn ALONE.

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Originally Posted by Lancet

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Adorable.

I'm going to name you Akiza 2.

After that patch notes reading and the hot fix smn got I have no doubt that smn and sch will get separated. And one or the other or both will get over haul but it seems more and more SE is going to remove classes from game and it will just be jobs.

Personally I don't care how they change SMN as long as I get to summon Carbuncles as pets.

Here's an idea: how about if they made Enkindle tie in with aetherflow. Like every time you gain a full stack of aetherflow you have a 40% chance to gain a free Enkindle.