SP nerfed. We were lied to.

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Originally Posted by Firon

I know he's trying to twist my words he in denial now lolz I alrdy closed down the thread with ppl saying the AA was slow till i showed them raw data then no one else responded to it lol. He's just but hurt he cant get 2-3 lvls per day anymore

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I'm twisting your words? Here are the things you said:



"Thats bs behest never gave no damn 13k lol'

even at broken water you got only like 7k per behest "


"I knew you was gonna say that but my PUG is 42 you want me to change my class for you?"

To which I replied "It would be useless since behest is trash SP post patch. You would get like 2k if you are lucky." because obviously doing there is no way for you to try to get high SP from behest post patch.

And then you say:

"I did it today on GLA and got 3k from it on the 30 which is what i got @ 30 post patch ok next argument. "

Which I don't understand what is your point. That doesn't prove that you couldn't get 11-13k when in optimal range with the behest and group.

How did I twist your words? You are just can't argue against my statements.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

trollololololo

Pre-patch leves and Behest were the ONLY sustainable way to level. Party camp grinding wasn't very viable at all (it is more so now).

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I never claimed otherwise but camp grinding is worse now. You get less SP per kill than pre patch.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I never claimed otherwise but camp grinding is worse now. You get less SP per kill than pre patch.

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If you did camp grinding pre-patch, then I want to know where. Because no one really did it. Its more viable now because there are more mobs.

Well for a lot of people, myself included, leves are a majority of their SP grind. This seems to be the group he wanted to cater to first. I'm not going to comment on grouping and world hunting until Yoshi actually puts forth those systems and addresses group play more. Hopefully 1.19!

All the solo leves I did though gave me more than enough SP to sustain me and keep me progressing. Did some 3 star rank40 camps on my r48 GLA, and they each gave a 4-6k bonus. And then I went to play in gridania at r41, and two starred the r40 camps. All the mobs were within 1-5ranks and gave decent Sp and a nice reward for playing efficiently, and not having to overwork myself soloing mobs at +10 ranks for a few measly k like used to be the case.

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I'm twisting your words? Here are the things you said:



"Thats bs behest never gave no damn 13k lol'

even at broken water you got only like 7k per behest "


I knew you was gonna say that but my PUG is 42 you want me to change my class for you?

To which I replied "It would be useless since behest is trash SP post patch. You would get like 2k if you are lucky." because obviously doing there is no way for you to try to get high SP from behest post patch.

And then you say:

I did it today on GLA and got 3k from it on the 30 which is what i got @ 30 post patch ok next argument.

Which I don't understand what is your point. That doesn't prove that you couldn't get 11-13k when in optimal range with the behest and group.

How did I twist your words? You are just can't argue against my statements.

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Cause i said Broken water gave 7k@ best and the lvl 30 behest gave me 3k before and after patch so yes you are twisting my words. Read again verrrrry slowly

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Originally Posted by Kensei

I never claimed otherwise but camp grinding is worse now. You get less SP per kill than pre patch.

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Behest isn't camp grinding.

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Originally Posted by Abriael

Yeah, because you can now speak for "everyone on your server" lol.

I had no hardship making 45k sp yesterday, in little less than two hours. Yes. You're doing it wrong.

But again, if you think running around flailing your arms and calling people liars is the right way to add solidity to your alarmist posts, then it's your problem, not mine.

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This guy is a liar.

Do not feed the troll.

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Originally Posted by Firon

Cause i said Broken water gave 7k@ best and the lvl 30 behest gave me 3k before and after patch so yes you are twisting my words. Read again verrrrry slowly

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Well BW gave me 9k and sometimes up to 13k. If you only got 3k from R30 behest pre-patch there was either someone too high or low screwing the SP. The point is behest are no longer viable and give only a fraction of pre-patch SP to those who did it in optimal conditions.

What was taken away from one thing was added to another, people QQ'ing over leves/behests have just gotten so used to pigeonholing them selves to one form of SP gaining. Look for alternatives if you want the fastest form of leveling, they are there and keep in mind (its been said before) Surplus is GONE! they had to make leveling more evenly sustained.

If the same SP system was still in place and there was no surplus this game would be on par with the difficulty of Hello Kitty Adventure.

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Originally Posted by AarosLunos

If you did camp grinding pre-patch, then I want to know where. Because no one really did it. Its more viable now because there are more mobs.

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Mostly eyes and skeletons while waiting for behest to come up in Nanawa Mines. Nobody did it as a main source of SP because behest was superior in every way. But since SP has been nerfed per kill then logically you would get less SP now than before patch.