I can't say that i often die using it; however, it almost never results in a clear. If the % is low enough, you'd be better to raise a melee DPS with swiftcast and have them melee LB. If the % is low enough, the entire raid will die in ~5 seconds after it goes off do to some aoe that instant kills everyone who has max weakness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiteroom
I've also had my team call "healer lb" when like 2-3 people are dead. I am like uhh no don't! Can easily have 1 healer pick up 1 person each, no need to waste the LB like that >.<
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03-19-2016, 04:31 AMKaurie
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03-19-2016, 09:50 AMLyshell
Angry whm incoming.
So I admit it in this run I was angry and I was rude, I'm being up front about that. However, this OT was driving my whm nerves. Anyways so I joined an in progress A6. Half the party is gone but we have what we need 2 healers (one of them me) and 2 tanks. I'm thinking okay we got the hardest jobs already let's wait. Got the DPS and we started, everyone knew what to do, EXCEPT the OT. He didn't switch at the appropriate stacks, he didn't turn the boss when needed, he didn't stack with the other tank when needed. But the final straw for me was the final boss in A6, I can understand dying to Ultra Flash once, I can even understand dying to it twice, but I draw the line at 5 times. At the 5th time I expect you to know what the heck is going on. And unfortunately, it wasn't even the only time the OT would die, I would raise him (and the other ast too, props to the other ast thank god I had him) and he would get himself killed. He died over and over, I couldn't even focus on the other party members because he kept dying. Somehow by some miracle we were able to win. At the end I was rude, I told him for the sake of the world he should quit being a tank. The other party members thought that was mean to say, but honestly I don't care, the other members (beside the ast) didn't have to keep the entire party alive and keep raising a useless tank. And yes I ws mean I was rude but like I said my patience had worn thin.
I'm definitely sympathetic to new people and people who try, but he wasn't trying and he didn't even apologize for causing the problem. Looking back I shouldn't have been so rude but I was being an angry healer lol. -
03-19-2016, 12:10 PMDubah
Lol DOUBLE FAIL TIME!!! so the other day i decided to run aurumn vale, got a maurader as a tank, he never went into tank stance i completely forgot to turn off cleric stance... Rest of the run went smooth lol... I tried to keep him alive and couldn't figure out why his health would not go up, i was spamming cure 2 thinking wth man, this guys' gear must suck, then after i went oom the tank died and just before i died i looked up and saw i had cleric stance on... I immediately apologised for my noob move then the tank decided to add that he was also in his dps stance... I'm sure the 2 dps were facepalming like a MF'r... Needless to say i always check cleric stance as soon as i zone in from now on lol.
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03-19-2016, 12:35 PMNoxiferWell, to be fair, if your tank was a marauder, he wouldn't have a tank stance. (Unless you meant warrior and just typed the wrong thing, of course ^^) But if he didn't have his job stone equipped, or didn't have warrior unlocked, that pretty much counts as a fail at that level ^^;Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubah
But yeah... I've done the whole forgetting I have cleric turned on thing too ^^;
This one time, when the FC was running Odin for glamour, and I'd kicked CS to burn him down that last bit... and then forgot it was still on when we zoned in again. Needless to say, it didn't go well. People claimed it was a cleriCal error. And for a while after that they called me CleriCal instead of just Cal ;_; I have such mean FC mates ♥ -
03-19-2016, 04:20 PMDubahIDK anything about the tanks lol, he symbol was an axe, i just assumed that was a maurader class.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noxifer
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03-19-2016, 08:51 PMUnstablePersonalityMarauder is two crossed axes Warrior is a single head of an Axe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubah
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03-20-2016, 12:41 AMValarianHeartbreaker
My turn.
Daily Trial Roulette, I get Nabriales, ugh. Notice at least one of the players is watching the cutscene, and we get the bonus tomestones message, double ugh. But this is when it got weird. The new guy was a Pugilist, not a Monk, a Pugilist. OK, this stuff happens, I've seen it once or twice, guys who don't know there are advanced classes because they can't be bothered to read, it's thankfully rare, but it happens. Then I inspect his gear, only to find out that in reality, he's lvl 60, because he's wearing a Chimera Felt Doublet of CRAFTING (no, that is NOT a typo)...
How in the flaming hell can a guy who's lvl 60 with his main class be so clueless as to 1- still use his base class (and I checked his armory, he basically never leveled anything else, so he couldn't even be a monk atm), 2- wear a CRAFTING Body piece to do instances, and 3- Be level 60 without having cleared the main story (do you know how many Fates, Leves and/or other forms of grinding that would require)?
I felt like we just carried a bot, but then, just as he left, he bowed to me... Not sure a bot would do that.
So which is worse? Carrying a bot, or carrying the most clueless-but-polite guy in the world?
I'm not helping anyone when I clear stuff for a guy like that, I just unleashed him in the expansion, so he can wreak havoc in all his future groups...
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03-20-2016, 12:55 AMDubahWell, I haven't met one yet that is as amazing as everyone makes them out to be lol. I've ran into a few but they don't hold aggro as well as any other tank job, or im just getting the crappy ones, and they also require a lot more heals than any other tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnstablePersonality
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03-20-2016, 08:55 AMAdireYou're definitely just getting the crappy ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubah
As for them requiring more heals, that's untrue. It only seems like they do because their increased health and increased healing received is less "direct" mitigation than straight up percent damage reduction.
Warriors also require more careful usage of cooldowns. But Warriors can essentially mitigate as well as any other tank on top of doing far more damage than a Paladin can, though less than before due to the tank damage nerf.
And Warrior is probably the easiest to hold aggro with to be honest. With Overpower, Steel Cyclone, Maim affecting all of its enmity skills, Berserk, and Unchained nullifying Defiance's stance penalty, Warriors can build insane hate when they want.
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03-20-2016, 12:17 PMAlphaFoxI recall someone around here doing just a Lancer play through, I don't recall the exact reason other than perhaps to see the reactions he would get. Could possibly be the same case, may just be a 2nd account for goofing around with and seeing if he can get reactions out of people. I know on a troll stand point that would be gold to me. :3Quote:
Originally Posted by ValarianHeartbreaker