Off Topic Discussion Megathread

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

I think the fact that so much of it was spent on repeated react content he has already covered a billion times didn't help either.
I dunno how much more about Diablo Immortal or WoW drama I can take lol.

It was like two hours of arguing with McConnel and chat about whether it's right or wrong to pre-order and the mount from the pre-order too.
I've definitely found myself just tuning out from his stream recently and this whole drama with FFXIV and how he acted about it kinda just made me feel like I am kinda just done.
I was really excited for him to stream FFXIV again, I actually enjoyed the Extreme trials a lot there was a ton of great moments.
But I kinda just lost all interest tbh it doesn't feel like a fun event anymore and I cba to deal with 6 hour intros for 1-1½ hour of gameplay.

It's fine if that's what he wants to do but imma just skip then.
I just rly don't like the react meta but it can't be denied that it's super popular.
I mean remember the '' watch parties '' on Twitch lol?
Where people just watched entire seasons of shows and movies etc.
It's pretty shameless.

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Yeah, I actually don't mind that kind of stuff, it's either that or I listen to like ASMR or something, and BY THE WAY I completely disagree with him on ASMR. I get that some people do make it for the reasons he says, but it's not all that, but WHATEVER. Yes, I do unironically watch and listen to ASMR. Have done so for just about every single day, for the past six years.

When I was playing PvP a lot in the past week, I listened to a lot of that actually. The Diablo Immortal stuff, etc. Lol on that one. I didn't mind any of it. I actually thought the trial coverage was kind of fun. I couldn't care less about him playing FFXIV. I have barely watched ANY of his FFXIV content. Literally none of it interests me, but then again I don't watch any FFXIV content of any kind either. From what I have seen, to me, it never really seemed like he wanted to play FFXIV so soon. Well, maybe just to have his character caught up, but I don't think he really, personally, wanted to play it again yet. It seemed more like he was doing it out of an obligation to a portion of his viewerbase than anything else.

Literally a lot of big streamers:

"I make this type of content because I'm here to entertain you!"
"STFU I do what I want, I'm not obligated to entertain you!"

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Edit: WAAAAT, it just started raining lol!
Praise be, something different than the scorching sun.

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Europe is out of shape lately. I have Polish friends bearing 30+ degrees weather - something usual for me - and close friend in Estonia who's been begging for a storm all week. Seems he finally got his wish today with seemingly imminent rain... the day he has a night shift. Bless his heart.

Whether it's in FFXIV or any other PvP, I'll never understand people who like 5vs1 you and then taunt you after you're dead.
You just look like a moron doing that lol.

Why would you brag and taunt people when you didn't accomplish anything?
If anything it just makes you look pathetic and cowardly.
If you're gonna taunt people then at least do it when you've accomplished something.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Whether it's in FFXIV or any other PvP, I'll never understand people who like 5vs1 you and then taunt you after you're dead.
You just look like a moron doing that lol.

Why would you brag and taunt people when you didn't accomplish anything?
If anything it just makes you look pathetic and cowardly.
If you're gonna taunt people then at least do it when you've accomplished something.

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I thought they removed all form of communication in PvP and even emotes. How are they taunting?

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Originally Posted by Renalt

I thought they removed all form of communication in PvP and even emotes. How are they taunting?

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There are other ways of doing it like jumping on your body and such, I meant more in games in general but I still see it in PvP in FFXIV where people are clearly intending to taunt you.
I think it's one of these things that you just get when you see it.

If you're in a 1vs1 with someone and then some while into the fight their whole team appears out of nowhere and just annihilates you and that same person starts screwing around on top of your corpse I think it's fairly obvious what's going on.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

There are other ways of doing it like jumping on your body and such, I meant more in games in general but I still see it in PvP in FFXIV where people are clearly intending to taunt you.
I think it's one of these things that you just get when you see it.

If you're in a 1vs1 with someone and then some while into the fight their whole team appears out of nowhere and just annihilates you and that same person starts screwing around on top of your corpse I think it's fairly obvious what's going on.

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Take pride that it took the entire team to focus you to bring you down.

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Originally Posted by MilkieTea

Annnnd he already talked about it and took back what he said.

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No, he did not. He said, that he overreacted. But he has still the problem with a sort of very vocal parts of the FF14 community.


Cheers

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Originally Posted by Larirawiel

No, he did not. He said, that he overreacted. But he has still the problem with a sort of very vocal parts of the FF14 community.


Cheers

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I just think it has less to do with the FFXIV community tbh and more to do with the context surrounding it.
There has been a growing frustration with him becoming a react streamer for a long time, and people waited almost a whole year and it was hyped up.
I think if he had done the same with Lost Ark for example people would've gotten mad too.

It's hard to judge these things too with Asmon because his fanbase usually doesn't even play the games he streams.
He has talked about this before too how almost no one in his fanbase even plays WoW but still engage in all of the drama and watch him play it ( at least based on polls he has done ).
In the end of the day his viewers are '' the Asmon community '' rather than a particular games community, even his own chat vehemently disagreed with him when he said it was somehow unique to FFXIV because it's something that has been growing for almost a year now.

I don't get streamer culture. Watching people scream at a game doesn't appeal to me.