1.23 Imperial Event

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Originally Posted by Ceol

There's no problem taking turns

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Good luck convincing people of that. You'll always end up with a group that will attempt to monopolize the claim on the big HNM type monsters.

Looking forward to Odin in ARR!

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Originally Posted by Tailless_Galka

Also, the reason you guys might be confusing the killshot for who has claim is because when you leash the mobs they could be deaggroin right before a kill and your killshot could be for claim because i noticed it happening last night before we were straight tanking.

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Originally Posted by Meatdawg

I can't see SE recoding the way drops work for one new event. People really believe that out of the blue SE decided that the final kill shot regardless of claim now determines who gets loot? Seriously?

What is happening is that either you have claim and your kill shot is irrelevant or the mob is leashing and your kill shot is taking claim...

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I agree. I think this is the most likely explanation for what is happening right now.

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Originally Posted by LenTsani

I can confirm that getting a "killshot" does not indicate where the drops go. As far as I can tell so far, proximity to the mob (I got a hat when it was purple to me, and I nor anyone else in my party got the killing blow on the elite that dropped it) is the only thing that matters.

So far after hours of farming, I haven't seen any confirmation whatsoever they drop from anything but the elite packs.

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Hi Len,

Thanks for the info.

If this is true (that you merely have to be in proximity and *not* get claim and *not* get killing shot), it seems a bit odd / unfair for those parties that actually spent the majority of their efforts getting the NMs down to 1% health (or killing it).

If what you're saying is true (just be in proximity), it's kinda sad when you have a Party that works on killing 99% of the Mobs (or heck, even doing 100% of the work), and you can just stand there and have a chance at the drop.

(or if you have to damage it a bit, the fact that you can let some other party do 99% of the work and you go in and just take a couple swings and hope for a roll feels... odd / unfair / not really rewarding teamwork (just loot stealing in a way).) :(

Have you all completely ignored the Possibility that simply participating gives you a chance to get the drop?\

Sometimes, you don't need to have the claim or the kill to get the credit..

This would also go hand in hand with the fact that there is no Lodestone Post for the win.

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Originally Posted by Kiara

If this is true (that you merely have to be in proximity and *not* get claim and *not* get killing shot), it seems a bit odd / unfair for those parties that actually spent the majority of their efforts getting the NMs down to 1% health (or killing it).

If what you're saying is true (just be in proximity), it's kinda sad when you have a Party that works on killing 99% of the Mobs (or heck, even doing 100% of the work), and you can just stand there and have a chance at the drop.

(or if you have to damage it a bit, the fact that you can let some other party do 99% of the work and you go in and just take a couple swings and hope for a roll feels... odd / unfair / not really rewarding teamwork (just loot stealing in a way).) :(

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There is 0 chance that you only need to stand next to the enemy. More than likely, your chance of getting the drop is based of the amount of enmity you obtain. Even if the requirement is just get any enmity at all.

It's Called Open-Tapping.

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Originally Posted by Kiote

There is 0 chance that you only need to stand next to the enemy. More than likely, your chance of getting the drop is based of the amount of enmity you obtain. Even if the requirement is just get any enmity at all.

It's Called Open-Tapping.

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SE ---really--- needs to confirm this then, there are a lot of parties getting really pissed off at others coming in and killing the monster. If in reality that doesnt matter then we have a bunch of raging for no reason.

I would all be for community no need to party content - but seriously tell us because we dont expect them to create that kind of content... (though we should, its lame having anti community community content lol)

I can say with about 95% certainty that you have to have claim on the mob to get a hat drop. I did this event for about 10 hours the first day it went up. I saw about 7-8 hats drop total throughout the course of those 10 hours. Every time it dropped, we had claim on that mob. I think the killshot theory came about because of leashing the mobs and the lag/delay of the mob name's color change. If you kill the mob and it's yellow, chances are that your killshot got you claim.

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Originally Posted by CoolhandLou

One of my party members (small party of 4) just had the Tricorne drop into his loot list.

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Also, in response to Coolhand Lou's post earlier in this thread. I was in that party and I was engaged in battle with H-1/elites with another member of the party. I cannot say with 100% certainty that I or my friend who was fighting next to me didn't have claim on a mob at the time of the hat drop. We were spamming aoes.

However, I'll admit that the drop was suspiciously close to the end of the event when all mobs despawned. I can't honestly say that it didn't drop at the end of the event. I can say though that the player that it dropped to had no hate on any of the elites, was not engaged to the elites, or in the general vicinity of the battle at the time of the drop. Her only connection to the elite group was she was in party with 2/4 members who were actively fighting/aoeing H-1/elite group that was attacking a LS that was straight tanking the H-1.

Poor loot system or not. The thing I don't like about this event so far is how damn random it is. College has started again and I have a lot of things to do in the day. I don't have the time to sit at a camp for 18 hours only to find out it spawned in JP time. Why not have it go 4hr on and then 4hr off like it was? Was it necessary to make it this complicated when a majority of your end game players have NOTHING to do?

A party of three from my LS (me and two friends)went out yesterday night and participated in the live event. There was a whole group from our server already out there, saw lots of familiar names. I actually really enjoyed it and thought it was pretty fun.

Everyone seemed to be working together, didn't seem overly competitive at all, just a bunch of people out enjoying their time, raising other people outside of their parties when needed.. cheering others on when they got their hats..etc.. I'm thankful to be from Masamune.. I like our community.... Anyhow... thought I'd add the tiny bit that I noticed from participating last night.

It was the general consensus from what everyone was saying that last kill shot on the magitek was the trigger for the hat to drop. This particular round, we never had red claim on the H-1. My party member (blm) died about 30+ seconds before the magitek went down. The hat dropped into my dead blm party member's inventory. I checked my log, and at no point did it tell me that I "defeated" the magitek, and our other party member wasn't in the area and didn't get the last shot in either.

I suppose I could of missed something, but I'm suspicious that it may be something other than "last kill shot".

The only other thing I could think of was that I was bard and had put blood letter on the magitek a bit before it died, and maybe that ended up killing it but didn't generate the message to me that I had "defeated" it? Maybe DoT death doesn't generate that message? I don't know.... but that is the small pieces to the puzzle I have to offer.

any how good luck to all!

From what I've seem, claim matters and killshot does not. I think people claiming that claim doesn't matter, may be trying to convince people to not vie for claim, and therefore improve their own chances of getting and keeping claim. /conspiracytheorist