Third-party Tools Can Negatively Affect Players Not Using Them

I turned off seeing them. I could care less and it's less text all over my screen.

Edit: I didn't hit quote on some of these..... i was replying to someone who mentioned achievements are kinda pointless

oh please they can afford it.... they get more money then that from the RMT that have to keep remaking their accounts (they have to rebuy the game right?). Then again maybe they're making that crap up? I just recently cleared my blacklist cause it was full from Venue ad shouters, but near the top i saw at LEAST 5 RMT still active (not "unable to retrieve").... it's been MONTHS since i added people near the top.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

You should put more thought into this process. Why should SE balance new content to be more difficult because of completetion rate? Hard content is there to drive engagement with people interested in such content, not to achieve an arbitrary percentage of clears. WoW isnt the same game as FF14, you cant just assume the things that happened in wow will happen in ff14 exactly like that. Wow isnt on console, ff14 is.

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ya, some of this is difficult enough for us on console lol.....

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

Don’t join PFs that require third party tools or make your own PF. Most don’t do this.

As for market board auto undercutting, maybe a potential solution is only being able to sell things in rounded numbers rather than being able to change by single Gil values? So maybe you can only adjust the price by 1 thousand or 100. This won’t fix everything but at least you won’t be undercut by 1 Gil

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1 gil's the way it SHOULD be.... it's what MOST people do. For instance some things I sell only sell for 20k, but they sell alot.... F no to only being able to undercut by 1k lol.... 5 undercuts and the price is killed. u wanna know how to deal with a bot? Once u figure out there IS a bot (i.e they're undercutting every hour or two, the person making half the MB never logs and is ALWAYS in an apartment making stuff, their FC has 8 other people all lvl 24-27 [with some dungeon gear to make it look like they play] that always camp random bells in towns for like 20 minutes), crash the price. Take something down to 40 or 30k. You go low enough they will REMOVE their listing. Keep making those items cause they'll sell fast and keep the price that low until the bot's been kicked off the game. And make a report about them.... I dealt with one last year, they're gone now. Another popped up only a couple months ago... made a report, they're gone now too. It's always the same things with them, especially the low lvl's to camp bells and sell thigns the 90 Bot FC owner sticks in the FC chest for them to sell.

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Originally Posted by AzhreiVahlok

Interviewed.... prog logs.... lol wth I thought this was a game not a job. On PS btw, not pc. Kinda miss the old 11 when i hear things like this. We'd actually EXPLAIN THINGS and help people learn, not (how fast can you prog [wtf does that even mean, progression?]). Now it's interviews and parser logs and if you're not good enough yet... well too bad we won't let you have a chance to learn. bye

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Hardcore statics are not the place for you to learn the game.

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Originally Posted by AzhreiVahlok

Interviewed.... prog logs.... lol wth I thought this was a game not a job. On PS btw, not pc. Kinda miss the old 11 when i hear things like this. We'd actually EXPLAIN THINGS and help people learn, not (how fast can you prog [wtf does that even mean, progression?]). Now it's interviews and parser logs and if you're not good enough yet... well too bad we won't let you have a chance to learn. bye

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What static traumatized you this way, lol. I've been in groups where they are more than happy to help people explain things and no one uses mods. Hell you can just go into a learning party and ask questions and I don't think anyone will get angry at you.

I think he just doesn't quite understand that there is a difference between casual raid statics that are happy to progress at whatever pace the members manage to and require nothing...and hardcore progression raid statics that want to finish the raid in a week, those requirements apply to the latter.

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Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa

Rofl, okay? What are you gonna do cancel me for something that never happened? Try it.

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You did that yourself tbh lmao.

All these threads do is make me want to start using damage meters myself.

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Originally Posted by Saraide

Who even asks for logs? You can just look those up on your own lol.

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Ironically this is what affects every "normal" player, because top logs have a lot of auto-rotation users which push the median numbers up.