Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

because if you going for raid tier stuff on multiple classes then its YOUR CHOICE to do it. thats why the "thats on you". end of it all this game is still a mmo and no mmo makes it easy for gear progression. i did learn one thing after my first character. i learned to only have classes i will actually use. that cuts down majorly on what gear i need end of the day and saves me time. however, as most people feel the need to gear up multiple classes then expect it not to be that easy. still need to farm and as a mmo that won't change. only way it would is if this became a true single player experience. those games have simple ways to get gear.

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But if i choose to gear an alt job using a seperate character instead of gearing all on one character, the process is sped up exponentially which makes no sense considering this game advertises its ability to play all jobs on one character. I can have 2 characters each with a job BiS around the same time. If i did it all on one character, i wouldnt have BiS on the second job for awhile after depending on shared gear + luck.

A system that is flawed isnt "on me". Stop defending a system built for gearing a single job. We have 19 and counting.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

i did learn one thing after my first character. i learned to only have classes i will actually use. that cuts down majorly on what gear i need end of the day and saves me time.

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Man, back when I was HARDCORE into this game, back on SB I geared EVERYTHING.....once I got to ShB, I realized how dumb that was.
Im still going to level every job, because Actually playing the jobs is better to learn what you like/dont like. And pick a Tank, Healer and/or Dps you like and just focus on that. Unless you wanna mix it up.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

??????
The game encourages having everything on one character but you cant get gear for it and your response is "that's on you"

Lmao ok bud

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They aren't wrong. "Its on YOU"
But how are you gonna sit here and say you can't gear a class....when you very clearly can? Im confused by alot of your replies to people....

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

But if i choose to gear an alt job using a seperate character instead of gearing all on one character, the process is sped up exponentially which makes no sense considering this game advertises its ability to play all jobs on one character. I can have 2 characters each with a job BiS around the same time. If i did it all on one character, i wouldnt have BiS on the second job for awhile after depending on shared gear + luck.

A system that is flawed isnt "on me". Stop defending a system built for gearing a single job. We have 19 and counting.

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Some people are ready to defend ANYTHING that Square does, its just the true reality, the person you are responding to is just one of the many, they'll always come back at you with "it's on you" or other random arguments of the like because they have no idea what to say to defend the company but they have to defend it anyway

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

Man, back when I was HARDCORE into this game, back on SB I geared EVERYTHING.....once I got to ShB, I realized how dumb that was.
Im still going to level every job, because Actually playing the jobs is better to learn what you like/dont like. And pick a Tank, Healer and/or Dps you like and just focus on that. Unless you wanna mix it up.



They aren't wrong. "Its on YOU"
But how are you gonna sit here and say you can't gear a class....when you very clearly can? Im confused by alot of your replies to people....

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I think the issue here is we have people defending systems they dont interact with. No, you did not gear every job to BiS in any expansion. You and Raven do not do savage or ultimate content which is where the gear matters. Why argue when you clearly dont know what you are talking about, and it simply doesnt impact you at all?

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Originally Posted by TomsYoungerBro

you did not gear every job to BiS in any expansion.

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No, I didnt.
But My response still stands that "its on You" to Gear your job. And you can in fact gear it. Or is there some argument here that you literally Cant Gear your Jobs?
Thats all Im getting at. I dont have to do Savage or Ultimites to say you can gear your jobs...because (unless there is a forcefield literally stopping you) you can.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Some people are ready to defend ANYTHING that Square does, its just the true reality, the person you are responding to is just one of the many, they'll always come back at you with "it's on you" or other random arguments of the like because they have no idea what to say to defend the company but they have to defend it anyway

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Choose any variation of "its on you" "its always been like this" "i like it that way" or "but wow bad"

This thread in a nutshell:

OP Miqo'te makes thread about MSQ. Angry Anti-WoW Miqo'te gets mad, and proceeds to have argument with based Miqo'te. Raider Miqo'te mentions how bad alt gearing is, and casual Miqo'te claims it's his fault.

I've read through 22 pages of this nonsense so you don't have to. You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

No, I didnt.
But My response still stands that "its on You" to Gear your job. And you can in fact gear it. Or is there some argument here that you literally Cant Gear your Jobs?
Thats all Im getting at. I dont have to do Savage or Ultimites to say you can gear your jobs...because (unless there is a forcefield literally stopping you) you can.

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Lactose intolerant person gives strong opinion on flavors of milk. lol

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Originally Posted by R041

Lactose intolerant person gives strong opinion on flavors of milk. lol

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I mean, you still can.
Just your body wont be able to digest it very well.
But that doesnt mean you cant taste it.

Such a weird take lol

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Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso

I mean, you still can.
Just your body wont be able to digest it very well.
But that doesnt mean you cant taste it.

Such a weird take lol

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Woosh the point over your head