Please don't harass people for ignoring/disliking the story

I dunno about anyone else, but I'm excited to see what an actual novelist has to say. Enough of these basement dwelling wannabes. :)

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Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

I never thought it'd outright DIE (Hells, just look to World of Warcraft even today), but it's difficult to deny it's mooning the crowd with its ever more obvious rust on the near daily. Be it here, or on Reddit (maybe not Twitter, but I don't go there) more and more threads are popping up criticizing Endwalker/6.1-6.2/2022 FFXIV/what have you and its various aspects on social media. I'm choosing to believe that's indicative of something. As to whether or not that'll spur Yoshi-P and Creative Dev Team III to amend the more egregious of the game's drawbacks, well who can say really? I only know where my bets are being placed, and by now with my tenure on this forum I'm rather sure everyone else does too.

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It's indicative of a larger playerbase...simple math, when there are more people playing a game, there will likewise be a larger pure number of people commenting on it, even though the % of the playerbase it represents may be completely unchanged. Simply put, EW has brought in the highest playerbase in FFXIV of any expansion to date, so naturally there will be more commentary. Given the general trend of this forum to always go negative, I'd posit that the regular pushback against the echo chamber actually shows how popular the current game is (compare for example to SB when there was very little pushback against the complaints).

Frankly, I don't see much at all in the way of "egregious drawbacks." I'm not into housing, and I know that's a hot topic, so that might potentially be seen as something, but that's about it. Go practically anywhere else on the internet and you'll see near-universal praise for the current characters, story, etc.. And not to mention of course how much people in-game are enjoying themselves.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

There is no Hamburg in Eorzea, so where does the word hamburger come from?!

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It's never actually called "hamburger" in the story though. The Last Stand just has "burger" and it's called "Archon Burger" in the crafting log. The Last Stand probably just has a different etymology.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I dunno about anyone else, but I'm excited to see what an actual novelist has to say. Enough of these basement dwelling wannabes. :)

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You still have not answered my question.

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Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

I never thought it'd outright DIE (Hells, just look to World of Warcraft even today), but it's difficult to deny it's mooning the crowd with its ever more obvious rust on the near daily. Be it here, or on Reddit (maybe not Twitter, but I don't go there) more and more threads are popping up criticizing Endwalker/6.1-6.2/2022 FFXIV/what have you and its various aspects on social media. I'm choosing to believe that's indicative of something. As to whether or not that'll spur Yoshi-P and Creative Dev Team III to amend the more egregious of the game's drawbacks, well who can say really? I only know where my bets are being placed, and by now with my tenure on this forum I'm rather sure everyone else does too.

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The moment I saw people hating on Shadowbringers online I realized a lot of it is just pure unadultered contrarianism by bored teens that want to feel special for having a differing opinion from the masses.

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Originally Posted by BaconBits

You still have not answered my question.

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I've moved on from whatever you asked me. Consider doing the same.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I've moved on from whatever you asked me. Consider doing the same.

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I think not.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

The moment I saw people hating on Shadowbringers online I realized a lot of it is just pure unadultered contrarianism by bored teens that want to feel special for having a differing opinion from the masses.

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Shadowbringers is by far the best expansion storywise IMO, but let's not kid ourselves. It is far from being above criticism.
Thinking otherwise is cult talk.

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Originally Posted by Kazhar

Shadowbringers is by far the best expansion storywise IMO, but let's not kid ourselves. It is far from being above criticism.
Thinking otherwise is cult talk.

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I never implied anything of the sort, but the kinds of comments I see about it are definitely contrarian talk.

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Originally Posted by Ameela

I never implied anything of the sort, but the kinds of comments I see about it are definitely contrarian talk.

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You most definitely implied that the mere act of hating on Shadowbringers was contrarian (since you put emphasis on the expac and not the contrarian comments) but whatever.
I could perfectly see how one could hate Shadowbringers without being merely a contrarian, as it dramatically shift the game's focus from world-driven political story, to a character-driven more intimate story. A lot of people seem to prefer the latter, but I've seen fans of the former being legitimately disappointed by the game's direction. There is very little in the game currently that feels remotely like 2.1-2.5 ARR.