Pld buff or War nerf in 1.22?

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Originally Posted by Andrien

called it. :P

mrd/war gets a nerf and gladiator/pld gets a buff

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Yep... you called it, sport.....

Just joking, but yea, I think we all saw this coming

WAR's tanky DPS is getting nerfed and pure DPS is getting buffed. I think I would call WAR getting balanced rather than nerfed :p

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Your point is very true... but one minor correction, people do gear WAR for DPS and use all of its combos... I do on Myrmidon Princess and you're right... it OWNS

Sometimes I even gear it for DPS while main tanking Morbol (Where hate is a much bigger issue than the need for defense or HP), although in that case I don't get to use all of it's awesome combos

In fact... From what I've found... WAR is the EASIEST class to get 350 STR and 310 VIT on (VIT being the secondary damage stat)... with room to spare for ACC and ATK accessories
The only thing limiting a DPS warrior is enmity reduction abilities.. which I guess is good... or else WAR would be way too OP...
If you are going DPS on WAR, just don't forget your Nerve Drops

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Read the above.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

But the point is that people are argueing that WAR does damage equal to real DD and tank at the same time, which is not true.

And a geared WAR for dd still doesn't out parse the other dd, go parse that out yourself, I did.

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I think it was more of a WAR out DDs PLD by such a huge amnt that pld is useless.

Ok maybe it doesn't out parse, it's not worth arguing about since my point was:
It's OP when tanking. The math behind it all screams that a DD build WAR should out DD MNK and DRG, but again, until my WAR is done I won't dive into what really happens, all I have to go on is other ppls numbers and/or the "best guess" formulas for figuring out dmg.

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Originally Posted by Isaaru

WAR's tanky DPS is getting nerfed and pure DPS is getting buffed. I think I would call WAR getting balanced rather than nerfed :p

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This I'd call a good thing, give pld the boost it needs to match a war tanking but let war choose to DD when they aren't needed to tank. Versatility is good, now to get surges fixed, and then dLvl.

patch 1.23 war buff pld nerf? Or maybe they will finally find a balance /crossfingers ;o

From Rein's translation, I would say everything that is happening is fair.

Sure, WAR is losing some of it's tanking efficiency. But it's being adjusted so it's even better at DD.

PLD is getting huge changes like increased max HP, improvements to it's weaponskills and possible stat changes.

I think both sides win in this case.

I hope the combo action on "Riot Blade" gets changed to the front or something, cause its pretty useless since we can't hit mobs in the back. You can try to run though the mob but that can get other people hit and not usually worth doing.

LOLs, I think its great how everyone think they have the answers to the "problem" meanwhile the "problem" is already fixed.... I could put up yet another wall of text with parses and videos and images to prove everything I post, but 99% of the people posting here have not truly tried tanking to its full potential, BOTH jobs. soo 50% of the posts are pure idiocracy from refuseing to learn or know anything about what they are saying and the other 50% is from pure biast , or simply not wanting to see raw facts as they are. Fact is , both have good qualities as tanks, speed runs make WAR chosen more often , not becuase "it dose everything better" but because its easier to use. spam attack and instant buffs and your golden, PLD take some actuall skill to learn to play and do it well, but if done well enough offers all the same things war dose but with a different delivery. Both viable tanks just diffrent in tank style. Either way it dosent matter, SE has fixed anything there was wrong with tanking already , most of you are just to love drunk with war or unexperianced to see it.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

LOLs, I think its great how everyone think they have the answers to the "problem" meanwhile the "problem" is already fixed.... I could put up yet another wall of text with parses and videos and images to prove everything I post, but 99% of the people posting here have not truly tried tanking to its full potential, BOTH jobs. soo 50% of the posts are pure idiocracy from refuseing to learn or know anything about what they are saying and the other 50% is from pure biast , or simply not wanting to see raw facts as they are. Fact is , both have good qualities as tanks, speed runs make WAR chosen more often , not becuase "it dose everything better" but because its easier to use. spam attack and instant buffs and your golden, PLD take some actuall skill to learn to play and do it well, but if done well enough offers all the same things war dose but with a different delivery. Both viable tanks just diffrent in tank style. Either way it dosent matter, SE has fixed anything there was wrong with tanking already , most of you are just to love drunk with war or unexperianced to see it.

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I'm on sarge i would love to see you try to keep hate off my thm i would not nuke for 2 mins and steal hate from gla 100% of the time.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

I could put up yet another wall of text

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Oh but you did.

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Also, I see you still have yet to successfully complete Miser or Chimera.

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Originally Posted by Aceofspades

LOLs, I think its great how everyone think they have the answers to the "problem" meanwhile the "problem" is already fixed.... I could put up yet another wall of text with parses and videos and images to prove everything I post, but 99% of the people posting here have not truly tried tanking to its full potential, BOTH jobs. soo 50% of the posts are pure idiocracy from refuseing to learn or know anything about what they are saying and the other 50% is from pure biast , or simply not wanting to see raw facts as they are. Fact is , both have good qualities as tanks, speed runs make WAR chosen more often , not becuase "it dose everything better" but because its easier to use. spam attack and instant buffs and your golden, PLD take some actuall skill to learn to play and do it well, but if done well enough offers all the same things war dose but with a different delivery. Both viable tanks just diffrent in tank style. Either way it dosent matter, SE has fixed anything there was wrong with tanking already , most of you are just to love drunk with war or unexperianced to see it.

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No amount of skill on PLD can make up for war's high trash mob dps in dungeons. PLD has nothing that can compare to Steel Cyclone.