Why people still USE ACT knowing their breaking TOS ??

What a time to be alive, we live in an era where someone thinks damge numbers is considered personal data.

Someone could just put the data in manually, act just automates it and makes it more accurate. The core data is available to all to see.

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Originally Posted by Awha

What a time to be alive, we live in an era where someone thinks damge numbers is considered personal data.

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Incorrect and you're being extremely deliberate.

It's Data Square Enix has specifically told you they don't like being compiled and published publicly through a third party tool, as for how it counts as the Clients consent...

You're publishing Data that pertains to their account with no consent, lemme put this in a more easier to understand manner.

You're part of an email chain, you show someone that email chain that isn't part of that email chain without removing their name or gaining their consent = You just broke GDPR.

Why do you think when people post chat logs on Reddit for example they scrub out the characters names? It's not just name and shame policy, it's a legality reason as well that mods don't typically allow that.

Have a good, long read.

https://gdpr-info.eu/

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

If the tool was that simple it would be inaccurate as hell, because it would be open to compiling bugged damage figures which can and have happened.

If it was that simple, they wouldn't need to patch the tool every time there's a big patch, you want it to seem simpler than it is because it makes it easier to digest that it's a plug in going through game data.

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They have to update it every patch because new abilities are added that it doesn't recognize. I am also pretty sure that ACT includes a version check of the FFXIV client to prevent inaccurate parses from going out which is why it doesn't parse anything after an update.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

If the tool was that simple it would be inaccurate as hell, because it would be open to compiling bugged damage figures which can and have happened.

If it was that simple, they wouldn't need to patch the tool every time there's a big patch, you want it to seem simpler than it is because it makes it easier to digest that it's a plug in going through game data.

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Because unlike humans which have visual eyeballs and thinking skills, computer's are only as intelligent as they're programmed to be and follow instructions exactly as they're programmed, even if it may be wrong. Parsers need updating because every patch, the offsets that certain variables are located at will change, and thus need to be edited to the new location. For example, if the current damage variable for your character in the chat log was at variable 0xffc, the parser will read the values at that address. if in the next update, that address is now hosting the name of the current targeted NPC/object/enemy, it's obviously not going to be much help in finding damage values, is it? Hence the need for updates to locate the new addresses where values are being held at for the program to function.

All the data parsers grab is in the battle log. Just go out into the overworld, make sure all the damage values are ticked to showcase in the chat log, and go wail on a monster for a bit, then scroll back up and you'll see all that information. Your data is not hidden, encrypted or secured. you can see anyone else's damage in your party at any time; there is literally nothing stopping anyone from going into their chat log, finding all those values by hand, and plugging them into a spreadsheet and doing the math manually. Of course, that would take forever, so much like how you utilize a calculator to not have to do 56314567321 x 7324569247 by hand, a parser just does the work for ya.

It's all public information, it really is that simple. It's not a violation of the GDPR, and trying to argue otherwise is just making you look worse by the post. Besides, it's not your information in the first place. You don't own the character or the game you're playing, you're merely given a license to play it when you subscribe, hence why they can revoke your access anytime. It's Square's public data that they don't ecrypt.

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Originally Posted by Mhaeric

They have to update it every patch because new abilities are added that it doesn't recognize. I am also pretty sure that ACT includes a version check of the FFXIV client to prevent inaccurate parses from going out which is why it doesn't parse anything after an update.

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Whatever makes you feel more comfortable about a tool that actively injects into your game files.

Stupid can't be reasoned with.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Incorrect and you're being extremely deliberate.

It's Data Square Enix has specifically told you they don't like being compiled and published publicly through a third party tool, as for how it counts as the Clients consent...

You're publishing Data that pertains to their account with no consent, lemme put this in a more easier to understand manner.

You're part of an email chain, you show someone that email chain that isn't part of that email chain without removing their name or gaining their consent = You just broke GDPR.

Why do you think when people post chat logs on Reddit for example they scrub out the characters names? It's not just name and shame policy, it's a legality reason as well that mods don't typically allow that.

Have a good, long read.

https://gdpr-info.eu/

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SE have decided against several things due to it being illegal on some countries where the game is played (child/teen playable characters, ingame brothels run by players, etc)

Guess what they declared was a grey area? Parsing, as long as it isn't used openly for harassment.

If it wasn't permitted by GDPR, they've already done something about it.

Data from your character which isn't associated whatsoever with you (only SE knows the email associated with your game account) isn't private data. No one can track or find information about RL you from a parse.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Incorrect and you're being extremely deliberate.

It's Data Square Enix has specifically told you they don't like being compiled and published publicly through a third party tool, as for how it counts as the Clients consent...

You're publishing Data that pertains to their account with no consent, lemme put this in a more easier to understand manner.

You're part of an email chain, you show someone that email chain that isn't part of that email chain without removing their name or gaining their consent = You just broke GDPR.

Why do you think when people post chat logs on Reddit for example they scrub out the characters names? It's not just name and shame policy, it's a legality reason as well that mods don't typically allow that.

Have a good, long read.

https://gdpr-info.eu/

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You are overthinking this.

Ones damge numbers and skill usage is not personal anyone in the group has access to it. The third party tool makes it easier and more accurate but the logs are available to all to see within that group. At that point how can we say that it is personal?

Even your email list example is kinda if moot since say I grant it violates GDPR, how could someone prove they were not part of the group in a reasonable manner? The email list has a trail within the company, and it is on such a small scale it would be annoy but easy enough to validate.

Fflogs no one is going through the hassle to validate that info thus becomes moot. Granted I do not think it is the case just granting it.

Trurh be told I have yet to encounter a legal case that came about due to releasing the in game name of someone online. I mean uf they have their social media attached to the name I could maybe see the issue but rvrn then I highly doubt it would go anywhere since the information as willfully linked oerson just followed the bread crumbs.

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Originally Posted by JanVanding

Incorrect and you're being extremely deliberate.

It's Data Square Enix has specifically told you they don't like being compiled and published publicly through a third party tool, as for how it counts as the Clients consent...

You're publishing Data that pertains to their account with no consent, lemme put this in a more easier to understand manner.

You're part of an email chain, you show someone that email chain that isn't part of that email chain without removing their name or gaining their consent = You just broke GDPR.

Why do you think when people post chat logs on Reddit for example they scrub out the characters names? It's not just name and shame policy, it's a legality reason as well that mods don't typically allow that.

Have a good, long read.

https://gdpr-info.eu/

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Considering from your own link, this is what GDPR applies to.

‘personal data’ means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly, in particular by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or to one or more factors specific to the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, economic, cultural or social identity of that natural person;

DPS in an online game is none of that. There is nothing in your DPS number, that can link it to "you" the person.

You could always try filing a complaint with the EU board over it, see how far that gets you.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Honestly you don't need parsers or the "other tools people use" to clear these fights. This is evidenced by all the day one clears of content when those tools are broken.

And yes, I do the difficult content. I.'m not amazing, but I'm generally well above average.

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I never once stated that you NEED a parsing tool, but rather I stated that parsing tools are USED for self-improvement and they help a LOT.

Yes you can play without parsing tools. But that in no way means that they don't help.... a LOT.

I hope it's clear now.

Also, toxic players exist even without parsing programs. Toxic players don't NEED a parsing program to be jerks.