Been running Ridorana Lighthouse the whole week and...

I worry about the the people coming after, trying to gear their main classes with pieces from there when the limit won't be around (to get the ilvl for 4.4 content.
now it's gonna be hell for them with greed only, seeing a piece they could use, only to be greeded on for seals or whatever purposes.)

and maybe it's to make it fair and allow everyone to play their main class while gearing alt, but I can't help and think, it's just to forces more runs to make old raid more relevant
(thankfully I often get my loots in one run and the gears are ugly...)

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Originally Posted by DatPotato

I worry about the the people coming after, trying to gear their main classes with pieces from there when the limit won't be around (to get the ilvl for 4.4 content.
now it's gonna be hell for them with greed only, seeing a piece they could use, only to be greeded on for seals or whatever purposes.)

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That's already the case for people trying to use Rabanastre as catch-up.

I rolled for tank gear once - I think I was on as my DPS. But I asked the tank in our group if he needed it first. He said he was good; otherwise, I would have passed.

Why can't people be decent in this game? Presumably, EVERYONE has had to deal with nonsense like this, where you go there for gear and someone wins it for an off-spec. Hell, for all we know SE rigs the RNG specifically for this use case. It's too easy for people to lose perspective that there are other people on the other side of those characters on the screen.

Doesn't matter anymore; the patch yesterday re-implemented the Need option.

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Originally Posted by Raldo

Doesn't matter anymore; the patch yesterday re-implemented the Need option.

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There's still the problem of the people that are decked out in 370+ gear rolling "need" just because they wanted the wardrobe graphic or just because the button is available. Game functionality is no substitute for being decent towards others.

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Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts

There's still the problem of the people that are decked out in 370+ gear rolling "need" just because they wanted the wardrobe graphic or just because the button is available. Game functionality is no substitute for being decent towards others.

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What's wrong with rolling Need on stuff if you do need it though?
I mean yeah it sucks that they're just rolling for something that they're going to use for glamour but at the same time think about this, how many times do you think a player could have run the dungeon for a specific piece of loot? Last week I had to run Ridorana an ungodly amount of times to get the tank chest piece, it dropped twice and I couldn't get it both times because I was outrolled and while to be fair those people probably did need it to gear their alt tank classes, how is that fair to me, a tank main who's been running the raid multiple times a day on the role whose gear I'm rolling for and then having it be snatched away by someone who probably plays tank once a month and would most likely be perfectly content with any other piece of loot?

My definition of "Need" is obviously different than most people in this community. I only regularly play three classes (dark knight, red mage, and astrologian). I don't "need" to look pretty. Looking pretty doesn't help the group dynamic. I "need" to be able to heal better, tank better, or do more damage against mobs. My rolls reflect those goals. Yeah, I agree that it's messed up for people that "probably plays tank once a month", but I'd almost positive that I see the glamour crew far more than the super-casually-played-this-role people - hence why I didn't mention it earlier.

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Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts

There's still the problem of the people that are decked out in 370+ gear rolling "need" just because they wanted the wardrobe graphic or just because the button is available. Game functionality is no substitute for being decent towards others.

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This. it happened to me on my last run, other healer in all 370, rolled need on the Healer Boots that I was looking at for an upgrade...and they didn't even heal/raise the entire Raid, unless you count a Healer LB3..during the first boss.

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Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts

My definition of "Need" is obviously different than most people in this community. I only regularly play three classes (dark knight, red mage, and astrologian). I don't "need" to look pretty. Looking pretty doesn't help the group dynamic. I "need" to be able to heal better, tank better, or do more damage against mobs. My rolls reflect those goals. Yeah, I agree that it's messed up for people that "probably plays tank once a month", but I'd almost positive that I see the glamour crew far more than the super-casually-played-this-role people - hence why I didn't mention it earlier.

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Your definition of "Need" ultimately doesn't matter. The only person whose definition of need matters is the person rolling on the loot, because if they think they need it for whatever purpose they might be needing it for, then that is their right. Glamour, ilvl, GC

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Originally Posted by Saraphin

This. it happened to me on my last run, other healer in all 370, rolled need on the Healer Boots that I was looking at for an upgrade...and they didn't even heal/raise the entire Raid, unless you count a Healer LB3..during the first boss.

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So you lost the loot roll fairly? I don't see what the issue is.

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Originally Posted by ijuakos_xqwzts

I don't "need" to look pretty. Looking pretty doesn't help the group dynamic. I "need" to be able to heal better, tank better, or do more damage against mobs. My rolls reflect those goals.

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Does greeding on loot you can't even wear until the group's disbanded help the dynamic any more than needing on gear for glamour purposes?