DPS is the job of DPS.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

No, I don't have to adjust my playstyle to the majority. And your totally biased example of a tank wiping the entire team multiple times on purpose does nothing to change that.
If I keep aggro on everything and use my skills properly, I don't care that two persons on the team want a speedrun, especially if I'm paired with a healer that's not confident on healing through big packs.

If you have any requirement above "people doing their job", you build your own party.

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My example didn't use 2 people though, my examples were 3 against 1. 2v2 is more complex and as adults we should attempt to come to a compromise either case to avoid kicking, but if one person is unwilling to compromise 100% then well that's too bad, a kick might happen.

If you have the expectation to go into DF and do whatever you want and not get kicked despite what the 3 other people might want then, you also have the option to build your own party. That is a hypocritical argument.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

No, I don't have to adjust my playstyle to the majority. And your totally biased example of a tank wiping the entire team multiple times on purpose does nothing to change that.
If I keep aggro on everything and use my skills properly, I don't care that two persons on the team want a speedrun, especially if I'm paired with a healer that's not confident on healing through big packs.

If you have any requirement above "people doing their job", you build your own party.

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So, you don't want to adjust your playstyle for your party, but instead have your party adjust for you? Hmm.

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Originally Posted by Taika

And because the GMs view "differences in play styles" as a valid reason for vote kick, your group has every right to remove you, no matter if your way of playing is "correct" or not.

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The difference is not a valid reason for kicking, it's an excuse to not having to investigate every kick. The valid reasons are explicitely stated in the kick window.

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Originally Posted by Miste

My example didn't use 2 people though, my examples were 3 against 1. 2v2

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According to the vote kick 2 vs 2 is a majority for vote kick so it's the same.

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Originally Posted by Miste

If you have the expectation to go into DF and do whatever you want and not get kicked despite what the 3 other people might want then, you also have the option to build your own party. That is a hypocritical argument.

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What's hypocrite is you phrasing it like having no expectations is an expectation. When I go into DF, I'll do with whatever I'm matched with, or I take responsibility and leave, unless it clearly violates one of the 4 explicit reason for kicking someone.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

So, you don't want to adjust your playstyle for your party, but instead have your party adjust for you? Hmm.

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I'll adjust my playstyle based on my analysis and understanding. If I know the healer is not comfortable with mass pulling, or the party setup is very weak when its comes to AoE, I won't do a speedrun just because someone doesn't want to spend 5 more minutes in a dungeon.

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

They're both the same to me, really.

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The difference is palpable, believe me. Especially when you add in the other party members who are also trying their best.

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

They're both the same to me, really.

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I disagree. You can immediately tell a difference when a tank is stance-dancing and trying to contribute to party DPS or rDPS versus one that is not. Same with healers.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I disagree. You can immediately tell a difference when a tank is stance-dancing and trying to contribute to party DPS or rDPS versus one that is not. Same with healers.

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Everyone completely misinterpreted my post. It's beautiful :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

Everyone completely misinterpreted my post. It's beautiful :rolleyes:

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Sarcasm when you can't properly communicate your opinion is not becoming.

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

Everyone completely misinterpreted my post. It's beautiful :rolleyes:

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If people are misinterpreting, then it’s probably due to lack of clarification on your part. :)

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Originally Posted by NocturniaUzuki

Everyone completely misinterpreted my post. It's beautiful :rolleyes:

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I'll assume that was your backhanded way of saying you don't care what the tanks do, yes? Good for you. It's not really prudent to a discussion about tank/heal DPS.

My OP was kind of flamebait anyways. The whole point was that only people who don't care about DPS would interpret it correctly, while the people who didn't hold that view would naturally assume I somehow didn't understand that "More DPS = better always". I was poking at people who get hung up on DPS, essentially.