So anyone else tired of grinding tomes weekly for gear?

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Originally Posted by Damona

Getting a 200 weapon already took 3 weeks, which was also annoying, but far more reasonable.

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Which caused quite a bit of problem as far as the gearing progression of weapons was concerned, espesically in consideration of the delayed relic quest and thordan.

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Originally Posted by Damona

And even then? Even if you finish midas savage, or sit there in full 230-240. Whats the point? Most of the content is and will probably pretty doable with 210-220 anyways.

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Typically it's the journey of doing said raid and clearing content, not getting the gear drops being the primary motivator for most raiders.

That aside though, I do agree that the end game can be pretty lacking for veteran players. As frequent as the patches come out compared to say, WoW, there's very little lasting power compared to it; WoW gets new, entire questing zones and a daily hub, we get 2 dungeons and a side feature that usually gets forgotten or shafted from the developmental aspect. Even the raid department, 4 bosses is a very small amount for one raiding tier, and making them difficult to the point that you'd spend 2-3 weeks of progression to clear (versus 8-12 bosses that take about 3-5 days of progression), it's less variety too and adds onto the monotony.

Im prolly gonna read through the thread again and start quoting suggestions on the first post sometime this weekend, im at work on phone atm.

#1 Reason I unsubscribed. Sad to see this is still going on.

Since I can get tomes in any way I want I'm not really sick of it. Last week I got my tomes from Frontlines and The Feast. This week I'm trying to cap with Bismark and Ravana and try get the birds. I might even try Thordan a bit on my tank.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

Which caused quite a bit of problem as far as the gearing progression of weapons was concerned, especially in consideration of the delayed relic quest and thordan.

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We really need to stop being so forgiving over bad implementation. This is basically admitting that their relics suck, and stretching out their usefulness by making it take longer to get the 'regular' weapons rather than provide any kind of a real solution to the problem. Well, except for the fact that for the average player, getting the relic would still take longer than 7 weeks.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the reason no one cares about relics is because they're the same as the vanilla weapons, just reskinned. The people who work towards them want something shiny to glamor onto their next 'BiS' weapon and don't really care or even look at the stats on the thing. There's a lot of wasted potential there, and everybody knows it by now.

People try to justify it by saying "well, you shouldn't be able to get the best weapon in a few weeks", yet time and again that's proven wrong because you CAN get the best weapon in a few weeks without aiming for the relic. Honestly, the new relics aren't even that nice to look at in my opinion; the old ones at least looked special.

So we're stuck in this weird limbo where SE doesn't want to make items with special statistics, and players are getting bored of the old ones. Maybe when we hit item level 999 they'll finally reconsider their stance and we'll have items which have some sideways movement instead of the constant upwards grind.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

So we're stuck in this weird limbo where SE doesn't want to make items with special statistics, and players are getting bored of the old ones.

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See i'm not sure it's totally SE not wanting to do anything it's just they have such undersized development staff they can't do all the things they want. It's why they are, at least in my guess, forced to play it safe time and time again.

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Originally Posted by Lemuria

So we're stuck in this weird limbo where SE doesn't want to make items with special statistics, and players are getting bored of the old ones. Maybe when we hit item level 999 they'll finally reconsider their stance and we'll have items which have some sideways movement instead of the constant upwards grind.

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Hopefully we don't have to wait that long for interesting things to happen in this game (like Yoshida promised us when he said that with HW about "change") next expansion if we're lucky because of this feedback on their forums if not there's always Final Fantasy XV for me to play and XIV can collect virtual dust, devs actually listened to feedback for that game when Duscae was out.

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Originally Posted by Yasuhiro

(like Yoshida promised us when he said that with HW about "change")

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Hate to break it to you but that 'change' already happened. Just take a look at lord of verminion and diadem. Those are the two features that came from HW. Features that changed the 3 dungeon 'tradition'. Hell, even diadem itself changed from what was promised. Players actually riding their ships and having multiple party members control different aspects of the ships has been changed into a cutscene.

My money is on 90 percent of the next expansion's budget being poured into the leveling experience of the new level cap. People will feel like SE outdid themselves this time until some players who reached the level cap early gets to see what's in store and then start arguing with people who are taking their time to get there. The latter will outnumber the former and they will spread the good word everywhere else. When questioned why the character progression system (stats, gear, etc) are still basically the same, SE will reply with "please think of the new players" and

"Vacation."

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Originally Posted by Gardes

Words of wisdom

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And that's why I'm annoyed and put change in quotation marks. I don't mean to insult Yoshida or intend to say anything harmful but does anyone else think that maybe he's reached the full extent of what he can do for this game? He fixed it and did his job bringing us 2.0 all he seems to be doing these days is going tour like a rockstar and he's the face of Final Fantasy XIV people even going as far as to say he saved the entire series from doom but if someone wants to correct me go ahead I have other theories for why HW is so lack luster like members working on the other big 3 games like Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy VII.

Maybe Yoshida does care about the game and wants to do more but just can't I'd love for someone to tell me that's the truth.
But for now I really do believe 4.0 is just going to 3 new zones, some new gimmick (like flying for example) maybe a job or two and 2 new EX dungeons on top of story ones.

Maybe I am the only one, but I tend to skip grinding the tomes. I did not bother with the ESO gear back in 3.0/3.1, but at 3.2 I got the 210 Ilevel gear and I can do almost all the content without any issues. When 3.3 hits, I will grind for the Lore gear and do the same. This game has so many stuff for me to do, I find spending time grinding the weekly cap, pointless.

Maybe when all my classes are max level, then I will start grinding the tomes, but for now, I do not need to.