Diadem and Savage - I can't deal with it anymore

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Originally Posted by Kosmos992k

Agreed, I am not sure at all that Alex Savage needs or will get a nerf. Having the two tiers of difficulty make nerfing Savage pointless. Coil 'normal mode' got nerfed because Coil was too hard for many non-raiders. But, unless I missed something Coil's Savage mode parts were never nerfed.

So, why would Savage content of any kind get nerfed.

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The problem with the implementation of the two-tiered difficulty is which one did they intend to be for the general population who has a static, but not nessescarly considered hardcore? "Normal" mode is so immeansely undertuned that it beyond any doubt, the developers intended for this to be clearable through duty finder without any prior setup or thought in regards to who you're playing with. Savage on the other hand, is debatable the worse incarnation of FFXIV's raid with it being tuned so hard for the majority static and collapsing underneath itself with the break down of statics and transfers to super-servers like greg or Balmung.

If Savage was intended to be hard, nerfing it defeats the entire premise of it. On the other hand, normal doesn't need rto be nerfed because they intended for everyone to clear it. So people are left head banging themselves on content that's designed for the top 3-5% players, and "git gud" if you aren't.

In Coil's case, the nerfs were done due to it being locked behind the story, and even the nyou'd still need a competent group to clear the end turns (T5, T9 and T13 post-nerf/echo is still harder than A4 on release), not solely for "making it easier" (this would be the case for the likes of Alexander savage). To most groups, I think A3s has more than overstayed it's welcome, and I don't think any amount of nerf will change that or reverse the damage it's done on some static groups or entire realms. Also to note that SCoB savage was left untouched throughout it's life. It was intended to be hard, but at the same time, there were other content available for the typical static (that being SCoB and FCoB), unlike now where they pretty have to do Savage (which is more or less tuned to be around SCoB Savage's level) if they want a raiding scene, because they sure as hell aren't gonna find it from normal.

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Originally Posted by RiceisNice

If Diadem required things like using notorious treasure maps gained from gathering, or exclusive cave/thick forest nodes (where you can't fly) that needed a party of combat to protect their gatherers, they'd be onto something here.

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Something like this would be awesome, maybe it will eventually turn like this. Lets not forget Diadem is totally new feature so due lack of PTR i was excepting that it will end as an mess, hunts were the same when they first came out but now it is pretty good, but that took time and alot or tweaking/reworking. So i think Diadem will see alot of adjustmets in future(give us those damn PTR servers SE so we dont need to beta test new features on live servers!).