Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

I'm making a new thread for Black Mages

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Aikaal been watching your youtube vids for awhile now. Been a great help. Thanks for spending the time!

My setup:
Rotation(Opener): ley->b3->swift->t3->sharp->f3->raging->f1->f4x3->f3 proc->convert->f4x3->b3->t proc if didn't mess up should have ~7 sec on enochian
Rotation(normal): ley* ->b3->b4->(t1 or t3)** ->surecast** ->f3->(f1->f3x3->f1->f4 or f1->f4x2->f1->f4x2)****->t3 proc*****
* ley is off cd and/or sharp+ley are not about to be of cd together
** t1 if no thundercloud and not clipping >3 sec, t3 if thundercloud+no clipping >3sec
***if leylines is not about to come off cd. best to hold together.
****depending on rng, Still playing with this so a lot of the time I revert to the f4x2->f1->f4x2.
*****must have ~4-5sec on enochian or a swift for b3->swift->b4. not worth if lose enochian

This isn't perfect but parsed 1450 on faus(a1 savage) with foe on opener over 2:48 and ~15%crit

My gear set: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/R12R
I also use Sohm Tart HQ and int pot after opener on next sharpcast opportunity

;o That's pretty nice. I tend to be wary of Faust parses since it's easy to AoE but it's possible.

I don't think there's much to update for the changes but I will. The changes for Thundercloud only made our proc management worst (Although it was a really nice buff in A1S) and Enochian change doesn't really change much.

Also, I am depressed to see my super high A2S numbers as Summoner >_>;;

A1S - BLM

You can slip some AoE for the first adds and leave your melees on Oppressor. We did that because we needed the extra damage.

I disagree that it made it worse than what it was, that'd be hard to do or require a nerf, if anything it's better. Thundercloud is now up more often to bridge our ice phase for starters.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

;o That's pretty nice. I tend to be wary of Faust parses since it's easy to AoE but it's possible.

I don't think there's much to update for the changes but I will. The changes for Thundercloud only made our proc management worst (Although it was a really nice buff in A1S) and Enochian change doesn't really change much.

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I've actually been having a blast using Thundercloud near the end of the rotation. It's quicker, more mobile, is really satisfying when you do a TC > B3 > B4 > F3 and skipped filler anyway, and hoo boy if you can multi-DoT.

The only downside is it's so dang tempting to do your final F4 (or try to sneak TC in after your final F4 at around 7s) if the timers "look" good due to Fey Wind, so I've gotten a bit greedy more than once with it and had to blow Swiftcast, or just outright drop Enochian due to my own greed. Just week 1 greed ;_;

my only concern is when to use thunder, like it feels off to lead with ice to me, but thats just a feel, I've been applying thunder if the ice phase lulls to allow me to do so. Now I want to say its best to apply thunder in every ice phase.. But I'm not terribly sure.

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Originally Posted by Aikaal

;o That's pretty nice. I tend to be wary of Faust parses since it's easy to AoE but it's possible.

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For us, the Overall raid DPS has been about a thousand higher than the raid DPS on Faust. That Deathflare starts to add up quite quickly with all the adds.

yea, I'm just playing in fights as we speak. I think its a dps increase to use thunder EVERY ice phase now regardless of ticks, with a 10% chance of proc it should proc roughly every 1.8 chains, or something like that. If tcloud procs to the point that we can get it at the end of fire chains then it should be used. think sharpcasting should be used with fire still though, just using fire 3 as a guaranteed bridge for AF stacks is so nice.

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

I've actually been having a blast using Thundercloud near the end of the rotation. It's quicker, more mobile, is really satisfying when you do a TC > B3 > B4 > F3 and skipped filler anyway, and hoo boy if you can multi-DoT.

The only downside is it's so dang tempting to do your final F4 (or try to sneak TC in after your final F4 at around 7s) if the timers "look" good due to Fey Wind, so I've gotten a bit greedy more than once with it and had to blow Swiftcast, or just outright drop Enochian due to my own greed. Just week 1 greed ;_;

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It's a problem that will be solve with more Spell Speed :) It is really nice to do F4x2 > F1 > F4x2 > TC > B3

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Originally Posted by Waliel

For us, the Overall raid DPS has been about a thousand higher than the raid DPS on Faust. That Deathflare starts to add up quite quickly with all the adds.

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It can't be help. Deathflare is part of the Summoner ST rotation.

Great guide! will use this in my new main for a while

Having 6 F4 in the opener sure feels awesome.