How to Dragoon Per Second: A DPS Paradigm

A lil late to the drg party since leveling War.. I started to work on getting drg to 51 to grind dungeons in off time.. But wow.. I'm not sure I like how Fang and Claw/Wheeling operate, especially with using a controller. Any tips on how you guys set it up? I feel like I have no more space for drg, or really any class. I set up a hotbar changing macro for war Defiance/Deliverance abilities, and it's working OK for now. I'm not sure that will work on the other classes though :(

Edit: Lots of controller users suffering ; ; SE Plz

Is there a chance someone can test the accuracy cap for Primals? Due to dungeon gear upgrades my accuracy dropped back to 450s, and I'd like to know just how much I'm going to struggle.

Ive got used to having it in a sort of "line" on my xbar, so keeping the positionals on the face pad for ease of movement, so i have ht and phleb on triangle which i had before, then ID on right arrow, dis on square, ct on x and 4th part combo on circle. Then the same on the other side for other combo. I got used to that layout pretty quick. Gonna have GK (with BL and BoTD) on l2/r2 bar with it displayed on a horizontal bar across my bar. Hope that makes sense

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Originally Posted by Thendiel

Video if anyone's interested:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K29QGQ0_bEQ

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Nice stuff man, what i notice to u popped BL early while IR still up, dont think IR/BL stack so just going waste an extra 15sec crit. Try popping it right after IR falls off, will hit u up alter when i get on to test some stuff XD..

personally, the GCD rotation+geirskogul was easy to get down. having 2.40~ gcd is required imo because in a lot of cases you have like 0.5s leniency to pop geirskogul while keeping BoTD refreshed. at 2.42 or higher you won't be able to use geirskogul in that combo rotation, a plateau of sorts

the hard part has been optimizing buff cds; knowing where to use ir/bfb and when to save jumps to use when bfb is up has been more difficult for (mostly out of unfamiliarity) and then actually applying the rotation in fights. everything is hectic as fuck, and if you miss a positional on 4th combo, it's such a huge dps drop. having to pay attention to your proc or be penalized 190 potency adds another layer of stress to the class overall

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

dont think IR/BL stack so just going waste an extra 15sec crit. Try popping it right after IR falls off,

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Is this confirmed? Seems kinda silly if so. Especially when they don't say they don't stack. Example: Storm's Eye and Dancing Edge say they can't be stacked with each other. Plus we have something like bard that can use Straight Shot and IR stacking.

I wish I could comment on the 60 rotation but life prevented me from maximizing my time in early access ;-;

Raging Strikes and Blood for Blood stack, why wouldn't IR/BL stack?

Also, are there any controller players here? What are you guys doing for this?

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Originally Posted by enil

There's little to no delay on the buff. Not sure what wizardry SE used, but they actually thought out and implemented this properly.

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If I had to field a guess, I think they may be pre-calculating which Skill will proc perhaps at the start of your combo.

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Originally Posted by ish007xx

dont think IR/BL stack so just going waste an extra 15sec crit.

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That's like saying Internal Release and Straight Shot doesn't stack. They do stack.

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Originally Posted by Aiurily

personally, the GCD rotation+geirskogul was easy to get down. having 2.40~ gcd is required imo because in a lot of cases you have like 0.5s leniency to pop geirskogul while keeping BoTD refreshed. at 2.42 or higher you won't be able to use geirskogul in that combo rotation, a plateau of sorts

the hard part has been optimizing buff cds; knowing where to use ir/bfb and when to save jumps to use when bfb is up has been more difficult for (mostly out of unfamiliarity) and then actually applying the rotation in fights. everything is hectic as fuck, and if you miss a positional on 4th combo, it's such a huge dps drop. having to pay attention to your proc or be penalized 190 potency adds another layer of stress to the class overall

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Yeah. Dragoon is very stressful. If you don't have 2.4 GCD, it's very hard to play with. I have 2.42 and I'm noticing very slight drops in DPS. I think 2.4 will be the minimum SS required to do anything with Dragoon.

What's the Skillspeed required to reach that? Time to redo zodiac materia in preparation?