DPS display could easily be solved with a system already in game.

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Originally Posted by Shadray

I don't see a problem with the way it is now, everyone has them, you can talk about them with friends, but you can't target people in game with the results.

What's the problem?

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You're right. This whole discussion is pointless for the most part. People that care about it already have parsers. Even if they introduced an in-game dps meter of some sort, people would still use a 3rd party parser because i'm sure it would still offer more. All these people scared of them because they think their bad dps would be revealed does not matter. People that care already see their bad dps.

The only legitimate complaint on the topic would be that console users don't have access to a parser.

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Originally Posted by Shadray

I don't see a problem with the way it is now, everyone has them, you can talk about them with friends, but you can't target people in game with the results.

What's the problem?

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Totally serious not-joking first party solution: "optional" first-party instance DPS meter. Throw an option in the menu to specify if you're pro-meter, anti-meter, or indifferent, and then never let anti-meter and pro-meter people get matched together in DF or join PFs that conflict with their preference. If you enter an instance with an all pro-meter/indifferent party, you get an official first-party meter, and if you enter with all anti-meter/indifferent you don't.

Certainly nobody anti-meter could complain about not being allowed to join PF because their preference conflicts since you didn't want to play with the pro-meter people in the first place, right?

(OK maybe I was joking a little)

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Originally Posted by Staris

Agreed people might notice I afk after using a 1 button macro that attacks every 20 seconds in CT/ST.

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lol im a noob with that stuff didnt even know what macro was b4 started playing ff14 XD n dont even use any in game :P

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Originally Posted by DracotheDragon

...training dummies do not have the same defence value's of t13 so thats useless, t13 itself has higher defence...

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Quite incorrect.

I am not sure why this comes up again and again.

POINT 1 Can you send a tell in dungeon? NO, supposed reason harassment.

Why would they give you a tool if they don't even trust you with tells?

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Originally Posted by FallenArisen0990

That's cuz I don't care for Coil gear. Does that make me a bad player? Did I have the luxury of having a static back than? Being overgear doesn't mean jack to insta kill mechanics. Do I play competitively? Do I care how I approach a fight? All answers to these questions are No because I don't care what anyone thinks on how I play.

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None of this is relevant to the fact that you have no perspective on DPS checks, raiding , or parsers. You can be ignorant of everything but you don't really add much value to this conversation by saying "I play how I want".

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Originally Posted by Irie

So yeah, I'm all up for parsers, but I don't think that an ig implementation would change anything. Ppl who want to improve, will improve and those who just want "to play for fun" will stay where they are right now complaining on the forums about "elitists" not carrying them through content that's "too hard" for them.

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Fixed for truth :P

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Fixed for truth :P

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Hilarious bias is hilarious

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Originally Posted by Stormrider

I am not sure why this comes up again and again.

POINT 1 Can you send a tell in dungeon? NO, supposed reason harassment.

Why would they give you a tool if they don't even trust you with tells?

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I remember when we couldn't have Vote Dismiss or Vote Abandon because people would abuse it... Never mind the fact that this thread has numerous workarounds to such potential harassment.