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11-10-2011, 09:39 AM
Sephrick

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Originally Posted by Dhalmel

why pay 13 dollars a month for a fishing mining harvesting simulator?
That doesn't sound very Final Fantasy if you ask me.

Doesn't matter if it's called Final Fantasy or Dark Age of World of Everquest. The box says what the box says. The game was advertised to be a kind of game where a DoL or DoH could enjoy the game just as much as a battle class. And for a year the devs have been mum to the fact that that concept is out the window.
11-10-2011, 09:41 AM
Cichy

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Originally Posted by Jinko

To be honest I would be pretty happy if they just gave us 8 leves for each DoL/DoH at each level range in each city.

Thats enough content for me for the time being.

Would be brilliant since we gotta run to all those far camps. It would be even better if we could get those leves at the camps.
11-10-2011, 09:50 AM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Doesn't matter if it's called Final Fantasy or Dark Age of World of Everquest. The box says what the box says. The game was advertised to be a kind of game where a DoL or DoH could enjoy the game just as much as a battle class. And for a year the devs have been mum to the fact that that concept is out the window.

Just because each discipline can't participate in the exact same content (since having a gathering class try to complete battle content is stupid) doesn't mean that DoL or DoH can't enjoy the game just as much. There will be stuff for everyone.
11-10-2011, 09:53 AM
Hikozaemon

if u play this game and only play DOL OR DOH class only then you have some major malfunction. GO play farmville if your that simple minded lol.
11-10-2011, 09:54 AM
Kiote

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Just because each discipline can't participate in the exact same content (since having a gathering class try to complete battle content is stupid) doesn't mean that DoL or DoH can't enjoy the game just as much. There will be stuff for everyone.

No Yoshida's refusal offer them any content means they cant enjoy the game. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people complaining just want Yoshida to stop telling them they are unimportant and offer them something to do.
11-10-2011, 09:56 AM
Sephrick

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Originally Posted by Rentahamster

Just because each discipline can't participate in the exact same content (since having a gathering class try to complete battle content is stupid) doesn't mean that DoL or DoH can't enjoy the game just as much. There will be stuff for everyone.

Depends on your definition of fun, really. Be the battle class exclusivity already is showing. Chocobos only can be obtained as a battle class.

I'm not saying I understand the mentality of wanting to be only DoH or DoL, I'm just saying I can sympathize. They bought a product as it was advertised and it no longer fulfills that roll. Yoshida just officially retracted that statement so that means those people no longer get to play the game they bought.
11-10-2011, 09:58 AM
Jinko

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Doesn't matter if it's called Final Fantasy or Dark Age of World of Everquest. The box says what the box says. The game was advertised to be a kind of game where a DoL or DoH could enjoy the game just as much as a battle class. And for a year the devs have been mum to the fact that that concept is out the window.

And it can, just in a different way, game is still going through some pretty big changes, Yoshi already outlined what he has planned for gatherers and crafters end game if its not enough then I guess those people have the choice not to play the game.

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Yoshida just officially retracted that statement so that means those people no longer get to play the game they bought.

No they have the choice to play it differently or lower their expectations.

If you buy a single player game and it turns out crap and doesn't live up to your standards/expectations do you moan and whine at the developer ?

Obviously MMO's are seen slightly differently because we are expected to pay a monthly fee, but heres the thing we haven't been paying for this game.

As Yoshi-p said in one of his letters that if we don't feel the game is up to our standards after 1.20 then don't pay for it.

I paid the same price as a single player game and have got a lot of hours play from this game, so I would say that all in all I have had my monies worth, if i continue to pay for the game yes I expect certain things, but nobody is forcing me to do that.
11-10-2011, 10:05 AM
Rentahamster

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Originally Posted by Kiote

No Yoshida's refusal offer them any content means they cant enjoy the game. I'd be willing to bet that 90% of the people complaining just want Yoshida to stop telling them they are unimportant and offer them something to do.

There is no refusal to offer content. It is coming. Just wait.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Depends on your definition of fun, really. Be the battle class exclusivity already is showing. Chocobos only can be obtained as a battle class.

I'm not saying I understand the mentality of wanting to be only DoH or DoL, I'm just saying I can sympathize. They bought a product as it was advertised and it no longer fulfills that roll. Yoshida just officially retracted that statement so that means those people no longer get to play the game they bought.

Content is coming. Just wait. He didn't say anything about "abandoning" DoL or DoH.

Also, this discussion needs to be moved to another thread.
11-10-2011, 10:05 AM
Reinheart

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Depends on your definition of fun, really. Be the battle class exclusivity already is showing. Chocobos only can be obtained as a battle class.

I'm not saying I understand the mentality of wanting to be only DoH or DoL, I'm just saying I can sympathize. They bought a product as it was advertised and it no longer fulfills that roll. Yoshida just officially retracted that statement so that means those people no longer get to play the game they bought.

Really this should be a new thread... lol but anyways...

you're right like I said before on this thread before YoshiP's post I started this game since it was announced you can play the game not being a battle class, for me that reminded me of when SE made Romancing Saga 3 where one character your roll was to play the stock market and they had a whole different system up till certain point of the game story so when I heard about this for FF14, I was like COOL I'll play miner...

But since then the gatherers mini-game was boring so I quit that but still was hoping there is a chance that this will be fixed later on but today with YoshiP's post it confirmed it's not possible to pursue the main story or have a story of its own being a miner. That's alright for me cuz I got level 50 Puglist and I knew it was probably going to end up this way in the long run being a MMORPG. At least for me I can understand what YoshiP is saying, it's really hard to make a story line possible for everyone in a MMORPG, specially if the game started off all screwed up like FFXIV did lol.

At least YoshiP is still trying to keep the game so gatherers/crafters can be played and they will try their best to make fun contents for them but as for the main story goes, it's goodbye... hey at least gatherer/crafters might have cool side-quests which is related to the main story and you have to be those classes to see that side of the story... to me that cool/good enough.

Now those few people/trolls on the JP thread saying you're going against what's on the package is just ridiculous lol, YoshiP apologized and took back the old teams statement and if the those gatherer only players still can't get it, they should really stop playing FFXIV imo.
11-10-2011, 10:19 AM
Sigmakan

Can someone link the translated post, I cant find it o.O

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