Information on 1.21 Next week?

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Originally Posted by Antanias

New post on the Lodestone :D

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Yeah Valentine winners :P

We know we will get a producers letter this week and that the patch will come next week, so what else are we expecting to read on lodestone?

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Originally Posted by Evenstar

We know we will get a producers letter this week and that the patch will come next week, so what else are we expecting to read on lodestone?

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Patch notes? :D

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Got some advice for you... (Not that it would ever reach you)
Under promise
Over deliver

Thats how we do it in the states...

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You mean, like Bioware did with SWTOR.

/sarcasm

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Originally Posted by Kraggy

You mean, like Bioware did with SWTOR.

/sarcasm

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Except they're Canadian.
Not like it makes that game any better, though.

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Originally Posted by Kraggy

You mean, like Bioware did with SWTOR.

/sarcasm

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I hate bioware because they hate PC gamepads

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Originally Posted by Impulse

Except they're Canadian.
Not like it makes that game any better, though.

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Hey, Canadians rule! They can make anything better, even fake bacon.
Just look at our Linkshell!

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Originally Posted by Rau

Sometimes I wish Yoshida was a twitter-holic, as opposed to releasing huge letters.

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yes he should get a twitter for sure. I think this will be a more personal communication to the players too.

I am going to take this time to defend Yoshida. I read the post provided to us and I will say to him.....Your priorities are SPOT ON! Do not change them. Remember everyone that we were given a Roadmap in Oct that was developed primarily in Sept prior to Ver 1.19. I am sure that this patch was no more then a conceptual idea with little substance to it. As time went along it is apparent that in order to give us a meaningful product more work was required then was originally anticipated so much so that you delayed Hamlet Defense in order to concentrate on Jobs and getting it right and in getting it right you went beyond yopur self imposed target date. In that you have my unqualified support. Getting it right the first time is paramount. The only thing that you might have done different is to drop an occasional post with a quick status update. Would help to keep the native from getting too restless. I would strongly urge you to stay the course for Vers 1.22 and 1.23.

I think the hot topic really is about us not hearing anything about the patch being delayed and not so much about the patch being delayed.
I think the majority of the people in the forum would have been fine if SE had annouced that the patch won't be released until mid March, as long as they told us.

Please SE take as much time as you want to make the game perfect but pls pls pls keep us in the loop, we've been here for so long supporting you and waiting for the game to be built up. A few lines saying "Apologies but the patch 1.21 will be delayed until the end of March" would have taken you only few seconds to post (and to all forums, not just JP) and when you then delivered the patch earlier you would have had a group of extremely happy fans in your forums.

I am really happy to see that you have now posted here, but isn't hindsight a bi*ch?
Keep up the good work and lets hope the patch really blows the socks off our feet because 14 really needs a break. I want the game to be epic! :)

Hamlet defense got delayed because initially it was designed for magic and battle classes only. Due to the uproar that DoL and Hand wanted to be involved in Hamlet without having to battle...Yoshi-p and team had to go back to the drawing board to redesign to accommodate said players.

...by the way not too many people talking about it but magic classes as of 1.21 will be close to where they are going to be be for 2.0 release...not sure why that's not a hot topic. I think the mage classes are pretty well played now.

Since playing battle classes a little bit more I'm learning to take full advantage of their TP and have lots of actions to perform all the time...it is imperative that you add throwing items to your mix. You can speedily almost every other attack do a combo move if you add in a throwing item.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Hamlet defense got delayed because initially it was designed for magic and battle classes only. Due to the uproar that DoL and Hand wanted to be involved in Hamlet without having to battle...Yoshi-p and team had to go back to the drawing board to redesign to accommodate said players.

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That's not true. I think that from the very beginning it was already mentioned that DoL and DoH would be participating in Hamlet Defense. The reason for the delay was just the scale of this content was way larger than anticipated.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Hamlet defense got delayed because initially it was designed for magic and battle classes only. Due to the uproar that DoL and Hand wanted to be involved in Hamlet without having to battle...Yoshi-p and team had to go back to the drawing board to redesign to accommodate said players.

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Not true in the slightest, we knew from the very start that Hamlets were to have content for DoL and DoH as well... Please don't state your own speculations as fact, especially when you're 100% wrong.

I want to know why FF11 gets like 90-100% more updates per week than what we get for 14 GRRRR!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Colino

Not true in the slightest, we knew from the very start that Hamlets were to have content for DoL and DoH as well... Please don't state your own speculations as fact, especially when you're 100% wrong.

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Well said. haha

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Originally Posted by Showmeyourteeth

I want to know why FF11 gets like 90-100% more updates per week than what we get for 14 GRRRR!!!!!

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Because it's a 10 year old game which is mostly only getting zone/job/quest tweaks and monster reskins?

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Originally Posted by Impulse

Except they're Canadian.
Not like it makes that game any better, though.

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The Austin, Texas studio is responsible for the POS SWtor game. It's an American MMO.

Uh...it was widely believed for a long time that Hamlet defense would only be for Battle and Magic classes...Yoshida made a point in case because it was still widely believed to be the case and I quote from him:

" But, it’s going to be fresh new content that can allow all classes to play an integral role (not just combat classes!),"

I'd like to see some thread postings...if you wanna go all dramatic about what was officially ever said.

And Rukkirii announced this as firm news only on the 16th of this month.

And I QUOTE: "Hamlet defense update.
We received news about the anticipated hamlet defense!

The development team is currently working on the hamlet defense which is slated to be released in patch 1.22. They are creating the content to allow every class, including crafters and gatherers, to be able to participate.

We will be introducing the specifics post-patch 1.21, so please look forward to it!"

So everyone BSing about my comment should really READ the facts. Since if you look anywhere on dev notes or postings there hasn't been any concrete to this matter until that postin.

The dev team went very silent on what was actually going to happen once Yoshida took the helm...and they never confirmed how hamlet defense would take shape...to this day and as noted in some patch notes in 1.21 we still don't know much if anything about hamlet defense.

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Originally Posted by Impulse

Except they're Canadian.
Not like it makes that game any better, though.

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Except much of the work came from Bioware Austin. I should know, I was learning Zbrush from one such employee last semester and they dropped by my Dad's resturant all the time to pick up orders.

...lawl...

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Hamlet defense got delayed because initially it was designed for magic and battle classes only. Due to the uproar that DoL and Hand wanted to be involved in Hamlet without having to battle...Yoshi-p and team had to go back to the drawing board to redesign to accommodate said players.

...by the way not too many people talking about it but magic classes as of 1.21 will be close to where they are going to be be for 2.0 release...not sure why that's not a hot topic. I think the mage classes are pretty well played now.

Since playing battle classes a little bit more I'm learning to take full advantage of their TP and have lots of actions to perform all the time...it is imperative that you add throwing items to your mix. You can speedily almost every other attack do a combo move if you add in a throwing item.

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Why would there be a topic on it,lol. Anyway, they are adding a bunch of spells to the dom classes in 2.0.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

Uh...it was widely believed for a long time that Hamlet defense would only be for Battle and Magic classes...Yoshida made a point in case because it was still widely believed to be the case and I quote from him:

" But, it’s going to be fresh new content that can allow all classes to play an integral role (not just combat classes!),"

I'd like to see some thread postings...if you wanna go all dramatic about what was officially ever said.

And Rukkirii announced this as firm news only on the 16th of this month.

And I QUOTE: "Hamlet defense update.
We received news about the anticipated hamlet defense!

The development team is currently working on the hamlet defense which is slated to be released in patch 1.22. They are creating the content to allow every class, including crafters and gatherers, to be able to participate.

We will be introducing the specifics post-patch 1.21, so please look forward to it!"

So everyone BSing about my comment should really READ the facts. Since if you look anywhere on dev notes or postings there hasn't been any concrete to this matter until that postin.

The dev team went very silent on what was actually going to happen once Yoshida took the helm...and they never confirmed how hamlet defense would take shape...to this day and as noted in some patch notes in 1.21 we still don't know much if anything about hamlet defense.

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Nothing in the facts say they had to redo the whole hamlet defense system because of DoL & DoH and that's what has caused the delay.

Content for classes of all disciplines has already been mentioned back in October 2011 in: http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf if not earlier, but I'm not going to look any further.

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Originally Posted by KumaAkuma

Nothing in the facts say they had to redo the whole hamlet defense system because of DoL & DoH and that's what has caused the delay.

Content for classes of all disciplines has already been mentioned back in October 2011 in: http://wdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/dow...Content_EN.pdf if not earlier, but I'm not going to look any further.

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i don't even know how they'll make it with the server limitations that only show 40 people on screen at a time.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

i probly have less then 20-30 whine posts in all my 3800, most of mine are just discussing things with people or calling them out on the utter nonsense they are posting

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Whining about whining is still whining ^^

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Originally Posted by Mug

Whining about whining is still whining ^^

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and so is whining about whining about whining about whining

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

and so is whining about whining about whining about whining

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Yep! It's like a neverending circle.

That is why The is the biggest whiner on these forums :D

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

its NOT the end of the month
its near the end

as i said, w have 2 days left

and its been stated, by the comm reps, that the letter is at the translater now

do you really think it wont come out til next month? we will probly see it in a few hours


im the one stating facts, you are the one whining

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Nope not the next few hours... maybe tomorrow. Sleep with one eye open tonight so you can catch Santa delivering the letter o.-

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That is why The is the biggest whiner on these forums :D

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keep dreaming, 99% of my posts are just me being logical and people raging cuz they wanna believe everything they say is right and is the way things are supposed to be

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

keep dreaming, 99% of my posts are just me being logical and people raging cuz they wanna believe everything they say is right and is the way things are supposed to be

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That's all opinion ^.^

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That's all opinion ^.^

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logic and facts arent opinion, opinion is opinion, people just hate it when you put facts in front of them when they want to believe otherwise

You would like to think that D;

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

keep dreaming, 99% of my posts are just me being logical and people raging cuz they wanna believe everything they say is right and is the way things are supposed to be

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...............eh?

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Originally Posted by Antanias

New post on the Lodestone :D

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You got me all psyched up, but then it turned out to be Valentione's Day stuff ._.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

You would like to think that D;

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lololololol.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

logic and facts arent opinion, opinion is opinion, people just hate it when you put facts in front of them when they want to believe otherwise

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You can be selective and misleading with facts to make an opinion seem like it's logical.

I do it all the time.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

That is why The is the biggest whiner on these forums :D

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This is so true. He thinks he is the forum police. He should respect other people opinions instead of talking them down like he is more superior to them.

hey, how funny will it be if we get no patch info this week.

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Originally Posted by Rau

You got me all psyched up, but then it turned out to be Valentione's Day stuff ._.

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So you're saying it worked? :P

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Originally Posted by syntaxlies

hey, how funny will it be if we get no patch info this week.

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