[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

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Originally Posted by Randis

I guess you still didn't play FFXIV...
without a reset people would just do leves all day for easy SP, the game would be a complete no brainer.
Faction leves would loose value and people would have more guildmarks than they can spend.

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ppl in ffxi do non stop fov pages. I see no issue, it gives you an objective vs randomly killing mobs fir the sake of killing them. Which imo no brainer mindless. guildmarks gil can be on the reset like in ffxi where gil and tabs are on the reset. I like having an objective when fighting mobs. It got boring and old when you just grind mobs in groups. I didn't mind but grinding mobs isn't all that hard. And it started to become a dd zergfest with PL. That pretty much made fights pretty much pointless imo. PPl just spaming ws.

tbh no one fights with tactics like they used to. which ended around cop. got worse in treasures.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

ppl in ffxi do non stop fov pages. I see no issue, it gives you an objective vs randomly killing mobs fir the sake of killing them. Which imo no brainer mindless. guildmarks gil can be on the reset like in ffxi where gil and tabs are on the reset. I like having an objective when fighting mobs. It got boring and old when you just grind mobs in groups. I didn't mind but grinding mobs isn't all that hard. And it started to become a dd zergfest with PL. That pretty much made fights pretty much pointless imo. PPl just spaming ws.

tbh no one fights with tactics like they used to. which ended around cop. got worse in treasures.

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you are not playing the game atm so you do not see just how much faster marks/gil/ sp is gained in this game. if they allowed leves round the clock i would have all classes at 50 with my play style and gone from the game onto another before content ever gets added or cap raised since i would have no reason to continue playing. i know many others that play even more than i do. the only reason we stay is to get levels until more stuff gets in game to keep us. other than the few nm's, which are killed daily, there is nothing for a higher level player to do.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

you are not playing the game atm so you do not see just how much faster marks/gil/ sp is gained in this game. if they allowed leves round the clock i would have all classes at 50 with my play style and gone from the game onto another before content ever gets added or cap raised since i would have no reason to continue playing. i know many others that play even more than i do. the only reason we stay is to get levels until more stuff gets in game to keep us. other than the few nm's, which are killed daily, there is nothing for a higher level player to do.

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I'm not really asking it for faster leveling, more to make killing mobs have a purose to it or objective. I didn't do fov pages in ffxi for faster leveling I did it so leveling wasn't boring. I git add and even though simple things amuse me doing something just to do it got boring. I like having a reason to do it.

that's the one thing this game is lacking in, but honestly 16 leves between the 8 locals and 8 battle already take up most of your time. i would not like it if they overloaded the game with locals/regionals to use as a cover for the overall lack of real stuff to do. the regionals are not fun and as it sits now it is still the only thing for most people to do. i'm not trying to knock your position at all it's just really hard to explain the condition of the game at this point and that there are many things needed and dun feel watering it down with round the clock leves would solve any of them.

Leave the sp on the mobs... Give an SP/EXP reward at the end which would be normalized for ALL leves of that level range. Say 10,000sp without any links, then with each link, you can get an additional 5%, max consistent bonus of 35% boost (aka SE's intention of having 8 man parties) and each link after that is only half the bonus percentage. If you take the SP off of mobs, people will just grind on raptors or something else entirely instead of doing guild leves. Also, crafting leves need massive SP bonus to your crafting job once finished.... Leves in general are broken atm. Not to mention the SP required to rank up crafting . . . but that is neither here nor there.

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Originally Posted by ApplePie

Leave the sp on the mobs... Give an SP/EXP reward at the end which would be normalized for ALL leves of that level range. Say 10,000sp without any links, then with each link, you can get an additional 5%, max consistent bonus of 35% boost (aka SE's intention of having 8 man parties) and each link after that is only half the bonus percentage. If you take the SP off of mobs, people will just grind on raptors or something else entirely instead of doing guild leves. Also, crafting leves need massive SP bonus to your crafting job once finished.... Leves in general are broken atm. Not to mention the SP required to rank up crafting . . . but that is neither here nor there.

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ummm leveling crafts is no harder than leveling battle. the only difference is you level it yourself by making the same sp doing one synth as you do killing one mob in a leve link party as they are now.

if you think anyone would waste their link for 5% you are really missing the point of linking leves. it is a waste to lose 95% of your sp by linking you leve with another. that would do exactly as i pointed out earlier and that is everyone solo their leves then meet for grinding parties later. as it is now you are already losing 40% of your sp by linking.