So, what now? Lotteries with 150+ bids until... when?

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

Except the odds would be increasing for all players who have been trying.

You can't give 150 different players a 100% chance of winning if there's only one plot available.

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obviously there would be a hard limit in place

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Originally Posted by Raim

There are minimum requirements. You have to finish ARR MSQ and be a certain rank in the GC. Then I believe you need 4(?) members for 30 days. But typically people just pay some new players to join their FC temporarily till they buy the plot.

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For FCs, you only now need to have 4 members in the FC and whoever has been in it for 30 days can purchase a plot (FC has to be 30 days old as well - stating the obvious) but you don't need to be ranked in a GC or even be in one to buy a FC house or to even get past the initial quests from the Adventurer's guild. That's for personal purchases only.

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Originally Posted by drtasteyummy

> look for house
> find 3 good ones
> can only try for one
> lose
> all gone
> next week only 3 million cubbyholes

they could at least increase the odds for each try per week.

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I mean this would be yet another bandaid, I would much rather see them solve the supply issue permanently.

Here on Odin the majority of small plots in the ishgard fc only wards are still empty. I get the suspicion that FCs just dont want small plots.

I see a medium plot in Empyrium Ward… 23 or 24 I don’t quite remember. Empty, but clicking at the placard it tells me that the plot is available to private buyer BUT it’s not free to bid at the moment… am I missing any additional announcements recently?

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I see a medium plot in Empyrium Ward… 23 or 24 I don’t quite remember. Empty, but clicking at the placard it tells me that the plot is available to private buyer BUT it’s not free to bid at the moment… am I missing any additional announcements recently?

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Probably someone transferred and it's not in the current lotto pool. Could be a transfer to a new server which happened during the bid period.

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Originally Posted by anguel

obviously there would be a hard limit in place

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How do you place a hard limit on bad luck protection when it's players competing against players, and the number of players involved each time changes?

Let me change the number in my example. Let's say you have 150 different players who have maxed out their chance of winning at 20%. There's still only one plot available. The 20% chance becomes useless because you're still competing against 149 others.

The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.

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This. And because players don't want to have to get more gil, camp at a placard, take time off work to be first or do anything beyond bidding, they asked for a fairer lottery system, yet for some reason are now trying to find arbitrary ways to exclude other players without doing anything significant that would differentiate them from other players. So much for fairness, huh?

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Originally Posted by Reinha

This. And because players don't want to have to get more gil, camp at a placard, take time off work to be first or do anything beyond bidding, they asked for a fairer lottery system, yet for some reason are now trying to find arbitrary ways to exclude other players without doing anything significant that would differentiate them from other players. So much for fairness, huh?

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Many of us who were proponents for the Lottery, KNEW that our chances of getting a plot would become much lower. We still advocated for the Lottery anyway because our guiding principle was that EVERYONE should have the same chance as others of getting a plot. All many of us wanted was a fair system, even if it meant our own chances greatly diminished.

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Originally Posted by Jojoya

The only way to improve a player's chances of winning is to reduce the number of players competing against each other.

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That's true for characters, but not players.
Last lottery, I (one player) entered 8 times in the lottery for one small plot, using the 8 housing-qualified characters on my account [on that world]. My odds of winning were 8X better than a player that only entered once: 18% instead of 2.3%.

I won, BTW.